Finally...

Ahh...nice! Its these little things that have a huge impact on user experience. Thank you Apple!

FYI - you can use the keychain menu bar icon to do the same :)

Not a OS issue but iOS 11, no more swipe up to close apps.... painfully touch a small "x" to close each app

Had an issue updating a 10.12.6 b2 FV encrypted Macbook to 10.13 b1 with APFS conversion: kernel panics every time you unlock at the pre-boot. Seems from the documentation that FV isn't the most well-baked feature right now.

Confirming @dgreening's experience; had to nuke-and-pave to get 10.13 b1 to install.

VMWare Fusion 8 latest version works fine as long as you don't convert to APFS.

@donmontalvo Yeah, I of course, had to try and upgrade my VM to 10.13 and convert to APFS. Fail... Should have expected that.

I upgraded my 2015 12” MacBook to 10.13 and converted to APFS. Took about an hour from download to finish. McAfee doesn’t work, of course. Outlook 2016 15.34 will not launch. OneNote crashes. Microsoft AutoUpdate will not update any Office app. Lots of work to do.

And where did the RSS reader in Safari go? It’s gone in iOS 11 and macOS 10.13.

For all the old-timers here....I figured quite a bit of software would need patched to run well on APFS. I don't know if folks remember Mac OS 8.1 when HFS+ first debuted but I recall lots of software needed patched with the file system change. I'm guessing this will be no different.

didn't even notice that.

A lot of work ahead for me.
I had a nice modular setup with nested workflows in DeployStudio (deploying image joining them to a domain software) before joining the computers to JAMF. I'm afraid I'll have to re-think the whole thing if we'll be unable to image the AFPS.

@arnokenis Are DEP and Enterprise Connect / NoMAD options for your environment?

Obviously the topic which I am most interested in is how any large organization is supposed to streamline the re-provisioning and deployment process. Imaging is essentially a one-touch process to kick off the workflow, and at the end you have a machine which is fully provisioned and is ready for user login. It seems to me that future "workflows" which include Internet Recovery, DEP, etc. do not actually "flow" all that well, and will produce a significant increase in time for IT staff to re-provision existing hardware, or to even provision brand new hardware. Lets be serious here, Apple, DEP is not globally available, and as such is not a real solution for a global company.

@dan.snelson They are options. But it will involve a lot of work. I work for a "big" company (27k+ employees) where the Apple Mac habitat is tiny. We're talking 200 machines. So we had to do a lot of customisation jobs to get the Macs to fit the company systems and processes.

Mac computers have always been treated the lesser computer in our company. They were in seperate subnets and couldn't do anything but browsing the internet and adobe apps. I just finished a project (1,5 years) of making them fully operational within our company (wifi, vpn, sso, ...)

Since a few months we've been working with Jamf. I'll have my work cut out to get it working with DEP. They guys of Jamf warned us that dep is probably the only way to go. But I was hoping I'd have some more time to get it all going.

And enterprise connect is not yet available in Belgium.

While I have access to the build, I haven't had time to investigate this yet and with NDA, none of us here could comment even if we did know.

That being said, I know how I envision it working...at least I hope. The new file system supports snapshots. It would be cool if an MDM or Terminal command would get the OS back to a factory or "predictable clean" state. DEP and/or Setup Assistant takes over from there. An OS update or patch would update the live booted box as well as the snapshot. You would use policies, profiles, packages/Mac App Store, VPP to provision a given system.

I'm certain the real thing is not the same but if I hit it spot on, I pulled this out of my rear end, not from actual development code.

Sign up for a dev account, play with the build and contribute on Apple Developer Forums. That's the best way.

Not sure what's so fancy about Lock Screen. This can be accomplished a few other ways..

I thought with the public beta's Apple changed the NDAs .. that said I am sure some of us have Corp NDA with Apple...

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@eddiel0w my guess is the keyboard shortcut the menu item comes with, built in to macOS now.

@ryanstayloradobe It seems according to Apple's public High Sierra preview page (https://www.apple.com/macos/high-sierra-preview/) that Reader view is now a default when using Safari and visiting sites that support it. I'm not sure how I feel about that, although I do tend to use Reader view to bypass all the annoying ads and other distractions that litter pages these days. Still, I hope it's something we can control individually, just as matter of choice.

I thought with the public beta's Apple changed the NDAs .. that said I am sure some of us have Corp NDA with Apple...

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I can confirm it works in VM Fusion Pro 8 if you don't convert to AFS.

Also noted that when I partitioned a hard drive and formatted the new partition in AFS, I wasn't able to install the OS onto it. I had to format it as HFS and have the OS installer convert it for some reason. Hopefully this will be fixed in the future.

Right now the ONLY build of 10.13 that exists comes from the Apple Developer Connection which is where the whole NDA thing comes in. Once it makes the public beta, I'm betting it is covered under more liberal terms but if ADC is involved then NDA is usually involved.

@eddiel0w nice hearing from you. On the whole lock screen thing, I have a simple Automator action like you noted. In my case though I welcome the lock screen command as a checkbox feature. I always have windows users ask how to lock the screen. I have to show my applet and demo a hot corner to call it. With this its a built in Finder command with a hot key.

Has anyone started up a deployment discussion on the 10.13 Beta developer forum? Rich Trouton has done this in the past... I browsed around yesterday and didn't see anything... yet... :-)

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