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Apple Business Manager Administrator Role Federated Account

  • Sep 22, 2021 6:13 PM UTC
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akamenev47
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We recently initiated Federated Authentication in our environment and I have noticed a strange thing - if I am trying to add an account via Apple Business Manager and I I want to set it's "Role" to Administrator - it automatically selects Authentication: "Apple". Only if I select Staff it is added as "Federated". Does it mean that Administrator "Role" account on Business Apple Manager can only be authenticated via Apple? As it requires attaching a working phone number in such case... Any insight on this would be great!

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  • Sep 22, 2021 10:58 PM UTC

This is the case for a lot of applications behind an identity provider or federated login. It makes sense if you think about it. It's so if there's an issue with federation, your admins can login to fix it. Avoiding all eggs in the federated basket.


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  • Sep 22, 2021 11:05 PM UTC

This is the case for a lot of applications behind an identity provider or federated login. It makes sense if you think about it. It's so if there's an issue with federation, your admins can login to fix it. Avoiding all eggs in the federated basket.


I see your point, the issue is - admin Apple auth account requires attaching a personal phone and what if admin is out of country and there is something urgently needs to be done with admin rights?


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  • Sep 29, 2021 6:59 PM UTC

I see your point, the issue is - admin Apple auth account requires attaching a personal phone and what if admin is out of country and there is something urgently needs to be done with admin rights?


In our org we create a separate admin account for each admin. 


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  • Sep 30, 2021 12:46 AM UTC

In our org we create a separate admin account for each admin. 


are those accounts using personal AppleIDs with personal cellphone attached?


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  • Sep 30, 2021 1:11 AM UTC

are those accounts using personal AppleIDs with personal cellphone attached?


You can create Apple IDs in ABM using their work addresses (or add .appleid like Apple recommends). Distribute to all of your desired admins. Each person can use their own phone. 

Maybe I’m misunderstanding your situation, but that seems to cover it? 


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  • Sep 30, 2021 1:55 AM UTC

You can create Apple IDs in ABM using their work addresses (or add .appleid like Apple recommends). Distribute to all of your desired admins. Each person can use their own phone. 

Maybe I’m misunderstanding your situation, but that seems to cover it? 


"or add .appleid like Apple recommends" - could you point me please to the documentation where this is recommended?

Otherwise I think it answers my question: ABM admins can only have non-federated Apple ID accounts with personal phone MFA authentication, am I understanding this correctly?


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  • Jul 16, 2024 10:44 PM UTC

"or add .appleid like Apple recommends" - could you point me please to the documentation where this is recommended?

Otherwise I think it answers my question: ABM admins can only have non-federated Apple ID accounts with personal phone MFA authentication, am I understanding this correctly?


You can add additional phone numbers to those admin accounts via appleid.apple.com. You get a new phone selector in the authentication flow (if you’re sharing those admin creds) to be able to approve MFA via that additional number.