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JNUC 2016

  • April 4, 2016
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A link to pictures with your fancy new office in the same post about charging a substantial (from free to $500 up to $1000) fee for your conference....

Too bad, I really enjoyed going in the past years but understand that it could be very expensive to run.

Does charging for the conference mean better WiFi?


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  • April 4, 2016

What effect will this have on Mini-Events? Will you still be posting Session Videos on the web?


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  • April 4, 2016

We literally just mentioned this to the boss man and he said he'd have to wait until he sees his budget for next year - so we're probably already in the $800 or higher range. And that's not likely to end well for us in Edu. Sad to say that my 4-year JNUC streak has probably come to an end!

I suspect attendance will transition to mostly private businesses and maybe some private schools sprinkled in. Hopefully we can still view the sessions from our offices back home.


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ImAMacGuy
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  • April 4, 2016

While the main knee jerk reaction is the cost, you did state that last year we maxed out capacity and needed more space, and out of that, JAMF needs to pass on the cost...

During JNUC 2015, you also witnessed first hand, after six years, we have now hit capacity in our current venue at the Guthrie Theatre. Yet JAMF is adding more than two thousand new customers every year. To accommodate this growth, and your desire for even more educational sessions, JNUC requires additional space — which of course requires more investment.

Yet it's still at the Guthrie, despite the cost being passed on.

I am pleased to announce that on April 6, 2016, the registration site will launch for the 2016 JAMF Nation User Conference (JNUC). For the sixth consecutive year, we will host JNUC at the historic Guthrie Theatre in Minneapolis, Minnesota on October 18-20, 2016.

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I am not in EDU so budgeting for us is different but I have to say that $499 for the JNUC is more than fair.


georgecm12
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  • April 4, 2016

Our budget requests for '16-'17 had to be submitted already, so I guess I'm out as well.


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  • April 4, 2016

@deanhager Will JAMF still post session videos post conference, and will there be a charge for them?


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  • April 4, 2016

Yes @lashomb , our intent is to post the videos post conference as we have done in the past. And we do NOT plan to charge for them :) I only have one caveat to this. During JNUC 2016, we will likely have double the number of sessions we've had in the past. In addition to the customer sessions, which we would post as normal, we will have a mix of sessions offered by JAMF employees. This will be made up of (1) new product offerings; (2) future product offerings; and (3) technical deep dives. While we haven't come to conclusion on exactly which sessions would be posted, we will likely be most sensitive to posting #2, future product offerings. Plus, of course, it will be difficult to duplicate in video the hands-on access that attendees will have :)


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Rules me out..I do admire that it was free for so long. Our k-12 district cannot justify $499, when we spent in March for CJA class. EDU scholarships sound great or even $250 for edu would be palatable...I would even self fund at $250...barring that, I may have to sit out this year.@deanhager , will videos still be posted?


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This seems like an unfortunate move and like others have suggested it will likely favor those from larger organizations who have the professional development funds to cover it. It is well out of reach for many of the attendees in edu or who self-fund their trip or who just have much smaller professional development budgets. Whereas these attendees might be the ones who could benefit most from the content and resources at JNUC.

What also doesn't really add up is how "JNUC requires more space" and there is a need to "pass on the cost" but yet it is being held at the same venue again this year. Although I have to agree that the new office space looks great and 2,000 new customers per year seems like an incredible amount of growth.

I think some kind of tiered pricing structure where sponsors and "corporate" attendees can help offset the cost for others as well as provide financial aid options (and maybe students rates) would be a great benefit to the wider Apple IT community. As the number of large Apple IT conferences has decreased, I've noticed that I'm seeing more and more familiar faces, which an awesome thing but I'd also like to see new faces too!

With the loss of the IT track at WWDC and MacWorld/MacIT I think it opens up a great opportunity to spin-up more local groups and conferences related to Apple in education and the enterprise but I hope the organizers don't forget about keeping their events accessible to the widest range of attendees who would could really benefit from it.


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  • April 4, 2016

Seriously: Since the move to the Guthrie, JAMF paid MANY thousands of dollars just for food I'm sure (cuz it's awesome), not to mention everything else.
How many people did you meet who just wandered around there for three days BECAUSE the food is great, beats workin' and why not, it's free?
Locally, especially.
I'm thankful it was free for this long, and look forward to the added space down at the new headquarters for hands-on labs and if the crowds are a little smaller, I will not mind.


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  • April 4, 2016

In my heart I'm with @Sandy on her position. JNUC is totally worth $499. Even the food is great! That being said, $499 proves to be a high sticker price when I have to fight hard to get the travel and time off approved by a school board. If I could get the sticker price down to $250 or $300, I might have a shot...at $500, it's doubtful.


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This sucks even more so for those overseas AND Edu, particularly in the Southern Hemisphere. Flights and lodgings were prohibitive as it was, but now I will struggle to justify this cost :(

It looks like I'll have to give X World a shot this year.


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  • April 4, 2016

@blackholemac It's sad/funny that the education folks face the biggest challenges to go somewhere for training, isn't it?
EDU should value continued training and education more than any others :(


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It is very much a paradox...the sticker shock wouldn't alone preclude me except that we just shelled out for CJA Training...totally worth it...no regrets...I passed..but this news may have just shut down hopes to go to JNUC. I may have a trick up my sleeve to convince the boss but it may not work.


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As a fairly new member in the JAMF Nation community I had planned to try go this year. Alas I am like others and also in the EDU boat. I can totally understand why there is a cost. From the stories and experiences I've heard (from others that have been to JNUC) it sounds worth every penny, however it is a slight shame as this now puts the cost well out of reach when flights / accommodation and such are factored in. It's sadly just a costing that no PD budget (at least in my work place) would cover.

Maybe next year the costing will be slightly lower and we can have a wee bit more time to get budget approval for us EDU customers.
Saying all of that It's good to hear that the videos will still be made available. These are some of the best resources available IMO and have really helped me on my path to becoming a Casper (or even just a Macintosh) Admin.


cdenesha
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I was hoping to make my first JNUC this year and connect with other K-12 iOS admins. Even if I can get the cost approved, many will not, and I will miss out connecting with them.

Considering that Education creates a budget from October to December and then tries to get it passed by June 30.. This is very unfortunate timing.

@deanhager Perhaps you could consider a much lower cost for EDU, like you do for the licenses?

Thank you in advance for considering.

chris


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In Wisconsin we pay $300 to go to our IT Brainstorm conference. $499 is well worth it. See you in the fall JAMF.


bentoms
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  • April 4, 2016

I get this increase. Even though the breaking of the news will never help budgets.

Why?

Well, JNUC is a fantastic event. I understand that over the years people have signed up & not attended. A few, any few would help stop that. But as per any venue & insurance, over filling is not an option.

If we talk budgets, my current (soon to be old employer) would budget for confs in the June the year before (with financial year for budgets being calendar years), so I'd have needed the budget confirmed BEFORE the last JNUC.

This is not EDU, but just an example of how we all have differing budgets.

@deanhager hey fella! Will there be a discount for speakers? I have a talk idea I've not passed on to your selves yet. But if you don't ask, you don't get.


cdenesha
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@bentoms third to last paragraph - complimentary for speakers


bentoms
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  • April 4, 2016

@cdenesha ah. Sorry. Got caught up in the furore.

n addition, we will offer complimentary passes to customers providing presentations at JAMF.

Well. Then. Better submit something decent this time.


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  • April 4, 2016

Whilst of the reasons may be completely sensible and understandable, as others have suggested and outright said, the timing is bad.

This shouldn't impact my own ability to attend, but it's going to take a small bite out of other PD event so I might have otherwise attended.

The most customer service friendly time to have announced this would have been before the end of calendar 2015 so customers could factor this completely understandable reality into their budgets for the new year.


donmontalvo
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  • April 5, 2016

@sepiemoini wrote:

@deanhager Thanks for the post! Will organizations participating in the Training Pass be offered any sort of incentive or discount for JNUC 2016?

I was going to post the same thing. If a company buys Training Pass, shouldn't a free JNUC pass be included? In any case, I think JNUC is well worth $499. And I say this as a person who will have to out-of-pocket it (yea, I added it to my calendar to meet the cutoff!). :)

Don


bradtchapman
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When I decided to attend JNUC 2015, I had been unemployed for a few months and had just earned my CCA certification on a self-paid Training Pass. I stayed in Minneapolis at an AirBnB house one mile from downtown for $30/night, and rented one of those neon green NiceRide bicycles for $18 (30 days). I got to the Guthrie at 8:45AM every morning to get a good seat for every keynote—the IBM presentation was mind-blowing—and attended as many sessions as I could squeeze in. I discovered the wonder of Slack (shout out for the MacAdmins group!), got a hot tip on training for OS X ACTC, picked up a signed copy of @arekdreyer's book, attended the MacBrained party, met some awesome people and shared food and drink with them, went on a walking tour of the old Minneapolis mills, partook of some delightfully bizarre drinks at the JNUC bottle share, and made solid work connections for future jobs. It was a BLAST.

The technical and social value of JNUC is incomparable. I will find a way to pay for JNUC 2016 and take the time off work, even if my employer won't cover it. However, I sympathize deeply with the educational users; JAMF knows who they are and should offer them a discount of at least $100.

PLEASE tell us that you're hauling in some supplemental Wi-Fi and Internet to the Guthrie Theater.

Also, why not offer a deep discount for first time attendees? Drug dealers don't grow their customer base by charging first time users. ;-)