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JNUC 2016

  • April 4, 2016
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  • April 11, 2016

You know if you wait a few weeks after JNUC they post all the videos for FREE. While I found the JNUC useful, I really did not think it was something I needed to pay to go to every year and knowing that it costs 500 or 1000 more does not really help or hurt that. And you can get all of the same info via video later free. You either can make a justification that its needed or you cannot. Since travel is involved my company does not and will not pay for travel to any training and therefore you either justify that you need it and figure out how to get there on your own, or you don't. I am pretty sure any successful company is going to make you pay for the conference. Apple being the biggest one that you all can look at. While the big apple event in San Francisco is neat it surely is not worth the 1000s of dollars it costs to go there every year either, unless you have made a business case for it. I suppose its time to remove myself from the JAMFNation email it seems that every day there is less good technical information coming through this forum than anything else. I am sure I hurt some feelings somewhere, and sorry for that. But, good Lord quit whinging about this and show us how important free stuff is to you and elect more democrats this fall, vote for $15 minimum wage and complain about $20 hamburgers. Good bye JAMFNation its been an interesting ride.


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  • April 11, 2016

nessts, first, I'm a good old fashioned conservative. I believe in paying my way, working for what I get, and making the most of what I have. So it isn't about wanting it for free. I am not against paying a fee and frankly am shocked that JamF charged nothing for an event like this for so long. What I am saying is simply going from nothing to a fee like $500 to $1000, puts an even I could have found useful, especailly as a new user from a small school, but that price makes it really difficult. Believe me, as a tech person in a small school - and by small I mean less than 200 kids in grades pre-k through 12 - I struggle mightily daily trying to provide our kids with the kind of technology tools that they will get the most out of. I have to make a case for literally everything all the way down to simple and inexpensive cords and accesories. Our population is so small and our money so short, we don't simply face shortages. We face the inability to operate or exist at times. That is how small we are and how tight our money is. We have an amazing school board and a supportive superintendent. They have supported some pretty big requests from me in the students' interest. They have, in fact, done more than I ever expected. But there is a clear point where the well runs dry and our well was not that deep in the first place. We always want to do the best for our kids but the fiscal reality of our situation means there is only so much money. And then the superintendent has to decide if it is more important to send me to a $500 conference than buyiong books. So, some sort of stepped pricing simply allows us to continue to try to do the best for our kids. Our reality is simply different. Not worse. Just different, and I was just putting in my 2 cents for some consideration of that


donmontalvo
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  • April 11, 2016

@JimNyland +1

I believe in paying my way, working for what I get, and making the most of what I have.

pete_c
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  • April 11, 2016

Regarding the JNUC session videos - which I have found immensely useful over these past few years - I have one small request that I hope JAMF will consider.

I just referred the Solving Real Needs with the Command Line session from last year to one of my clients, who is hard of hearing, but he noted that there were no captions. Additionally I was unable to find any transcript of that session.

Universal access is beneficial for everyone. JAMF, please at least investigate doing this for future sessions.


bentoms
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  • April 13, 2016

@pete_c Great idea!

If that happens, I'd suggest a person & not a robot doing the captions.

This can lead to unexpected results from me at times! like this


AVmcclint
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  • April 13, 2016

Chubs
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  • Jamf Heroes
  • April 13, 2016

Lol @bentoms been burned by Siri in the past?

Gotta get someone that understands all dialects as well as slang to do real time CC for the conference. I'm sure there are some partially deaf/wholly deaf people who'll attend.


spalmer
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  • April 19, 2016

@deanhager As we are looking at how many we can send to the conference I noticed there is a "Super Early Bird (Group)" discount where you can buy 3 get 1 free. I have a couple of questions since a few things regarding the group rate are not clear to me and I couldn't find the answers in the FAQ.

  1. Will the group rate go away when the Super Early Bird pricing expires, or will it continue through all of the discount levels?
  2. When registering for the group rate it only allows a maximum of 4. What if we end up having eight people attend? Is there a way we can get two groups of "buy 3, get 1 free" on one registration so that we can do it all on one purchase order?
  3. Similarly it would be nice if we could do any combination of individual and "buy 3, get 1 free" so that we can say have seven for example on one registration and use one purchase order so we can internally spread that cost savings across all seven registrants since we are all from different departments that have different budgets.

These aren't deal breakers since we are still up in the air about how many we are going to send, but it makes it a little easier, since we might have to submit a purchase order, to do one big purchase and one registration for 4 to 8 people.


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  • April 19, 2016

@spalmer Thanks for the questions. I hope this helps.

  1. Buy 3, get 1 free WILL continue after the Super Early Bird pricing expires
  2. I'm sure we can accommodate this. Write jnuchelp@jamfsoftware.com and they can get it organized.
  3. I'm not sure I follow completely. But I suspect if you write the same address listed in #2, we can help. If not, let me know.

Thanks!


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  • April 20, 2016

Thankfully we allocated a pretty healthy PD budget this year, so I'm gonna get to go! :D


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  • April 21, 2016

Another educational partner here from Canada. We have participated for the past 3 years in JNUC but unfortunately that will not be an option moving forward with these fees.


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  • April 22, 2016

I have just received confirmation from others not going to JNUC 2016 due to the fees. These folks are actually trading the would be JNUC fees towards airfare to go to other conferences. Why they are not posting their thoughts on this forum is beyond me, but I figure I would at least express to the JNUC committee that this introduction to fees is affecting a lot more JNUC fans than you think.

I am close friends with those other folks that are not attending and I am definitely going to sit out if they don't go. It's unfortunate it has come to this, but maybe things will improve for future JNUC's.


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  • April 25, 2016

RE:"I have just received confirmation from others not going to JNUC 2016 due to the fees. These folks are actually trading the would be JNUC fees towards airfare to go to other conferences."

Please post the list of free conferences they have found that will be of greater benefit to Casper Admins than the JNUC.

I have been to two other conferences far this year. The cost of just the conference fees for these two are over $3,800. And, travel always costs more than registration…

RE:"I am close friends with those other folks that are not attending and I am definitely going to sit out if they don't go."
With all respect, basing conference attendance on whether your friends go or not is not the best criteria. Go to learn. At EVERY JNUC I have been to (all of them), I have learned something that was much more valuable than $500.


easyedc
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  • April 25, 2016

This thread is growing. Can we please up-vote Ignore or unsubscribe from email updates to an ongoing JAMF Nation Post so that we can make these notifications stop the next time it gets on-going like this. At this point, the comments aren't (IMHO) worth getting email notifications every time.


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  • April 25, 2016

I do feel the pain of folks that want to go, but can't due to financial concerns. I could just as easily be in your shoes, but am not due to a very wonderful boss.

I disagree STRONGLY with anyone who says that the JNUC isn't worth it. Even previously when JNUC was free, I have learned a considerable amount of information that I have been able to take back and implement rather quickly. One year, I learned a technique from some other admins that totally paid for all of my lodging and airfare in the man-hours saved. Last year, I learned some strong techniques that I was able to implement fairly quickly and some ideas to give our building principals to motivate students more.

JNUC is totally worth a $499 cost period! I am excited to be going this year to go to some of the hands-on sessions and sessions run by the JAMFs. I had to do some horse trading to get the $499 cost covered, but so long as the conference cost doesn't go up terribly each year, I've done the horse trading in a way that should get this event covered every year. Excited to go and know I will get my money's worth.


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  • April 28, 2016

@Kevin

You misunderstand my posting or maybe I did not convey correctly. Sorry. But what I was saying is that folks are trading the JNUC 2016 fees for airfare to other "paid" conferences. I never said free conferences...

I totally vote the option to unfollow or unsubscribe to these types of threads - it's disgusting. Let's put an end to it. I am sorry to all that I caused such a reaction and I feel like the Donald Trump of this fiasco of a posting I committed!

I am sorry I Donald Trump'd this thread.


cdenesha
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  • May 2, 2016

@deanhager Thank you for allowing us in Education to have a chance to use the Early Bird discount with next year's budget money (July 1).

chris


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  • May 3, 2016

This will be my first year at JNUC and I can't believe that a for profit company EVER had a free conference. It's still very cheap as far as tech conferences go. Even the hotel and airfare are relatively cheap. Try going to a conference in SF or NYC and see what that sets you back.


donmontalvo
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  • May 4, 2016

@deanhager registering now. I wouldn't miss JNUC for the world.

PS, today is May 4th, hoping that means I only have to pay $499. :):):)


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  • May 4, 2016

@donmontalvo I'm looking forward to seeing you there. I just came out of a meeting where we were discussing all of the great content we have for you this year. And yes, if you get it done today, it's $499 :)


jconte
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  • May 10, 2016

For anyone trying to say at the Depot, the JAMF Rate is not valid. Just got off the phone with them and only one of the days was available.

I guess everyone is taking advantage of the SuperEarly bird special.


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  • May 20, 2016

just got word by the boss man...won't approve it due to the registration fee which I know was a major selling point in going in years past. This yrs cost was around 2K for me alone to go, then a new person to the team wanted to go and that doubled my price. With that said, last year both of us could have went for about 40% of the cost of what one of ours would have cost this yr.

I'm not sure if @deanhager realizes there is an issue with school funding these days and we already pay a premium, yet discounted price for the services of JAMF. Our district is planning for the possibilities of a shut down if the state of KS can address the funding issue on July 1. Many states have a funding issue these days, reduced budgets, do more with less. So, to impose a fee to your customers to come to a "customer user group" makes hardly any sense to me, but then again I wasn't asked about it. But when I am asked about JAMF, it gets glowing reviews and being around this for nearly 10 yrs now, it's changing and I'm not so totally sure for the better. When my boss was called by the investor group about JAMF, he gave them positive feedback. If in the expansion of how this business is changing it would be nice to see some one on the ground locally to check in, do some overview of new feature much along the lines of an Apple SE. We have to come Minneapolis to see/meet out account manager or whomever it might be and now there is a fee for that?


Chris_Hafner
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  • June 8, 2016

The Depot goes quick! Personally, I've always preferred the Residence at the Depot. Anyways, they only had two days available at the discounted rate. The Hotel MN has rooms. See you all there!


cdenesha
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  • June 9, 2016

@Chris_Hafner How can they only have two days at the discount rate? Wouldn't they have certain rooms blocked off until full, and then let the others goto the public? Or am I dreaming?


howie_isaacks
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  • June 9, 2016

@cdenesha You are indeed dreaming. I ran into a similar issue last year when I tried to book a room at Aloft. They had just two days available. I ended up staying at the Normandy Inn. It was nice, but I would have liked to have stayed within walking distance of The Guthrie. This year, I booked my room early, and I got in at Aloft.