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OS X Yosemite

  • June 3, 2014
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Any first take? What to watch for? Positive or Negative feedbacks?

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  • Contributor
  • June 3, 2014

As far as I am aware, the Beta can not be discussed outside the Apple forums due to the NDA.


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  • Esteemed Contributor
  • June 3, 2014

Fairly sure you can discuss the keynote ...


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  • June 3, 2014

I'm sure you can about that. I saw the start of the keynote after I posted this, so disregard my post haha.


Chris_Hafner
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  • Jamf Heroes
  • June 3, 2014

Yep. I am blown away. I can't begging to mention how much I hope for iCloud Drive! Oh, and the API expansion!


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  • June 3, 2014

Has anyone been able to successfully block the Yosemite installer? I set up a restricted software item that looks for the "Install OS X 10.10 Developer Preview" process, but it does not seem to work...


scottb
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  • June 3, 2014

@andyinindy: how about just putting in: "Install OS X 10.10"
I haven't tried yet - working on it now...just a thought looking at the parent process.


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  • June 3, 2014

@boettchs, "Install OS X 10.10" doesn't seem to work either. I am on 8.73, BTW. Has anyone else had success with restricting Yosemite?


scottb
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  • June 3, 2014

@andyinindy][/url: The first one you posted does indeed work. I just ran it... Double-check for spelling, etc. And I'm sure you updated your test Mac with sudo jamf manage first? I just did it and it's working as you'd expect.

*edit: FWIW, I'm on 8.73 as well.


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  • June 3, 2014

Hmmm, I have no misspellings and I ran a 'sudo jamf manage'. No joy. Weird. I'll keep poking it with a stick to see if I can get it working...

*EDIT*

I am a moron. Global exemptions were to blame. All is working as expected with "Install OS X 10.10 Developer Preview" as the process name. Thanks, @boettchs!


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  • June 3, 2014

At the Keynote yesterday they said that 10.10 would be made available to non developers to participate in the beta as well. So I'm with ya on the NDA stuff, just not sure how much it applies this time 'round.


scottb
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  • June 3, 2014

@andyinindy: Cool. Had to be something dopey eh?

@Millertime: I won't discuss the software at all other than something like this. I think it's OK to discuss how to kill it in the environment - we're not talking about the software itself. Although Apple sorta opens the doors with public betas now...


damienbarrett
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  • June 3, 2014

Yup, I'm also blocking the installer the same way as boettchs. But not on my own test computers, of course. Heh.


mm2270
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  • June 3, 2014

Apple hasn't released a beta to the public yet. Probably not until later in the summer. Right now you need to be a registered developer or be signed up with their invitation only Seed program to get the preview.

That said, its probably safe to discuss anything that was shown in the keynote yesterday since the whole world has access to that information right now.

The new technology discussed seems interesting. I was a bit distracted with the new look though. Its got Johnny Ive written all over it. He set his sights on iOS first and now OS X. Skeuomorphism has been officially kicked to the curb with this upcoming release. The new look seems so.. flat. Almost too much to me, but I'll do my best to reserve judgement until its officially released.


emily
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  • Hall of Fame
  • June 3, 2014

All I really want (to the tune of the Spice Girls song) is Airdrop to work between iOS and OS X. I mean, I don't understand why it didn't before.


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  • June 3, 2014

@emilykausalik zig a zig ahhhh, I also would love it Airdrop had that functionality! I didn't get to see the Yosemite portion of the keynote yet; was that something that they announced?


emily
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  • June 3, 2014

@emilykausalik, aww man so nothing definitive:

Other possibilities include Apple finally releasing...a version of AirDrop that is compatible with iOS’s AirDrop functionality.

Guess I'll need to install the beta(s) and try it out! But not talk about it here ;)


scottb
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  • June 3, 2014

Interesting:

Apple Has (Partly) Lifted the NDA for Beta Releases

With the release of the beta versions of iOS 8 and OS X Yosemite at WWDC 2014 yesterday, Apple has also updated the legal agreements for registered iOS and Mac developers. Among other changes, Apple has added the following sentence to section “10.1 Information Deemed Apple Confidential:

Further, Apple agrees that You will not be bound by the foregoing confidentiality terms with regard to technical information about pre-release Apple Software and services disclosed by Apple at WWDC (Apple’s Worldwide Developers Conference), except that You may not post screen shots, write public reviews or redistribute any pre-release Apple Software or services...

http://oleb.net/blog/2014/06/apple-lifted-beta-nda/


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  • June 3, 2014

Thanks for your input guys. Keep it coming :)

@andyinindy, tried your solution and it works on JSS 9.31 too.


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  • June 3, 2014

@boettchs][/url

I did the standard restricted software for blocking the process and it blocks the installer.

However, a coworker came up with the brilliant idea of partitioning his HD and installing it on that - for some reason, it installed it just fine (without being blocked).

Thoughts?

-TJ


scottb
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  • June 3, 2014

@tthurman: The restriction kills the installer process, so you can't just have a partition and run the installer - I have lots of partitions so he did more than just install it there. I'd wager he installed an OS on that partition then upgraded it. It would not have the JAMF Binary on it, so the policy would not be in place.
Or, he unmanaged it first. Does he have rights and knowledge? It's not hard.
Just a guess without knowing more...


mm2270
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  • June 3, 2014

Craig Federighi mentioned in the keynote that Airdrop will work between the Mac and iOS in Yosemite. Its around the 35:30 mark in the presentation, so I would say that's pretty definitive.


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  • June 3, 2014

@boettchs

Makes sense. I talked to him shortly after I posted this - He said he used the seed file to install it via a flash drive after partitioning.

As I think about it, I don't really see a way to stop someone from doing this.

--
TJ


mm2270
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  • Legendary Contributor
  • June 3, 2014

@tthurman - If the Restricted Software has been fed down to his Mac, it should make no difference where he ran the installer from or what partition he intended to install it on. As soon as the process starts the Restricted software item should see it and take whatever action you told it to, like quitting it and/or deleting it.
As @boettchs mentions, the more likely scenarios are either that the Mac never got the new Restricted Software xml telling it to block that installer, or it was installed from an unmanaged Mac. Or, he disabled the process, which isn't very hard to do if you know what you're looking for and have admin rights on the box.
There are really no other valid explanations.


mm2270
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  • June 5, 2014

Just did some testing today on the dev preview and it looks like to block it in a Casper Suite Restricted software item you need to add in a process called "InstallAssistant" That's actually the executable that pops up when you run the 'app" installer.

I haven't set up a Restricted Software item yet, but doing something like

kill -9 $(ps axc | awk '/InstallAssistant/{print $1}')

shuts down the installer assistant if its up on screen, so that will probably work.