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We tried to get @gregneagle to speak at JNUC2014. Your's truly offered to walk on stage in a tutu, introduce him, and walk off stage, stoping to curtsy along the way. Such a golden opportunity and he declined (OMG THANK YOU!!!). ;)



Posted to IRC today:



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Direct link to the relevant feed: http://osx.michaellynn.org/freenode-osx-server/freenode-osx-server_2014-06-18.html



A couple years ago we had a JNUC session where JAMF sat with some of the large clients and discussed the upcoming version, and what we wanted/needed in the new version. I came prepared, suggesting (1) exclusions and (2) ring fencing. Both requests made it into JSS 9 (as exceptions and sites).



I really hope JAMF does the same at JNUC2014, so we might finally get new patch management functionality in JSS 10. Whether it's something simple like adding is equal to or greater than to Smart Computer Group criteria (not sure that would be reliable in all scenarios), or some other way of determining if an installed piece of software needs to be updated.



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@loceee's Patchoo (gesundheit!) got a lot of attention, as it showed, at least conceptually, what might be possible if JAMF could dedicate some time/resources...:



Hello junki! Casper patching done right!
https://jamfnation.jamfsoftware.com/discussion.html?id=10636



...and it stirred up a lot of discussion; if you're not already on the ##osx-server IRC channel, do yourself a favor and join. Scroll to the bottom of:



http://wiki.afp548.com/index.php/Main_Page



Don't miss @tbridge's excellent IRC article:



http://www.afp548.com/2013/02/06/a-field-guide-to-irc



The more attention this gets, the greater the chances JAMF might pull this off...hopefully without anyone needing to parade around in a tutu at JNUC2014.



Thanks,
Don

I think Apple fans expecting a road map out of anybody else is quite humorous.


@nessts I'm not sure exactly what you mean here. Roadmaps are rather important when making long term purchasing decisions or investments. They're not written in stone of course, but they are quite useful.


@bpavlov



I like absolutes, to prove my points : ) I'll go back to that thread that you quoted and quote myself because it's this is the same argument. Keep doing management/security the way it's always been done or move to improved ways...



I am interpreting what you are saying is that that "Organization with heavy hardening requirements" are better at securing the Mac OS than Apple. I think when you say it like that it super crazy... I am not saying Apple is right all the time, but they are better than most orgs.

C

PS For you sports fans.. it's skating to were the puck was in 1902 not were it is today or tomorrow...


The Mac admin community is full of people still trying to manage the Mac like Windows/the old way and is down right crazy. If you are happy just doing management/security the way it's always been done, that is fine but, I know that we need to push the community to do better.



As much as it sucks, most managers/CIO/CISO don't want to do anything out of the normal so unless we talk about change and and take the risks like Facebook, IBM and Apple push the envelope nothing will get better.



I would also like to point out that doing the same things as those very big and important companies is really not that much risk.



C


Apple's closest thing to a road map is the newest most beautiful powerful yet, wonderful operating system will be available this fall. Good luck on getting any hardware road map out of them. Therefore, I find JAMF's patch management will be available when its ready to fit quite perfectly in the ecosystem. I just think more time is wasted discussing easier ways of doing patch management than it takes to do it personally.


Ahh... Apple 'roadmaps'. I see. I thought we were talking about anyone BUT Apple.


Hi Everyone,



d3 has been released as open-source:



https://jamfnation.jamfsoftware.com/discussion.html?id=19395



Happy Apple's 40th!


I'm just gonna leave this here...http://www.jamfsoftware.com/events/jamf-nation-user-conference/2016/sessions




COMING SOON.....



JSS 9.93 beta...baby steps...its all good. :)


Just wanted to let you all know that as of the Casper Suite 9.93, we have added some initial patch functionality for 34 supported third-party titles. For each of these titles, you can get automated compliance reports, notifications for available updates, and easier patch scoping. (See https://jamfnation.jamfsoftware.com/featureRequest.html?id=224.) Look for additional supported titles and expanded patch functionality in future releases.


YEA! Downloading now! What is "Infrastructure Manager" and how did I miss a new product?


Hey @erin.miska



Not sure if I'm looking in the wrong place but where can I see the list of the 34 supported titles?


Hey @davidacland, check out the "Patch Reporting Software Titles" section of the 9.93 admin guide. It's largely Adobe titles, web browsers, Microsoft Office titles, Java titles, and a couple anti-virus titles. We based the list off of feedback from Casper Suite admins, and we're looking to continue getting that feedback as we expand the list!


Perfect, thanks :)


Looking forward to the OS X "greater than" and "less than" scoping criteria. #HappyDance


35 minutes before #JNUC2016


@donmontalvo first half of 2017. yawn.


Remember two years ago when they actually mentioned this?


So, I guess I may as well go ahead and implement something "in the mean time."



Is Patchoo still in development?


Excited about patch management policy.



Excited about version 10.


<cough>MUNKI<cough>


@CasperSally Would you rather rush it or get it right? v10 is not just a reskinning of the console. They are rewriting the presentation framework to handle much larger datasets. Us larger customers have been complaining for quite a while that the current design does not scale. And it doesn't. They are taking the time to rewrite the UI to handle scale of tens of thousands of machines.


Munki is good I have used the tools. I am more excited about how Jamf will implement and integrate.



Excited to see how it all plays out.



Scalability is key!


I'm actually quite happy Jamf (yee-amf? jam-eff?) decided to rewrite from the ground up, as there is 10+ years of legacy code under the hood. Fresh slate. Lots of foundation work to lay down before putting up walls and curtains.



"When I told my wife Jamf wanted to film us in bed, she was like 'Awesome!'" - Dean Hagar at #JNUC2016