Posted on 12-07-2021 02:31 PM
Posted on 12-07-2021 06:44 PM
Posted on 12-07-2021 08:28 PM
Awesome, really looking forward to this!
12-08-2021 03:57 AM - edited 12-08-2021 03:59 AM
Great ! Finally should i say 🙂 !! Will spare a lot of time !!
Posted on 12-08-2021 09:41 AM
One can hope! I'd love to see something done as well to beef up OS updates/upgrades. This is so long overdue!
Thanks @jamf for working on this. Looking forward to seeing it in action.
Posted on 12-08-2021 11:31 AM
No on-prem option? Really? death by a thousand cuts...
Posted on 12-09-2021 04:16 AM
Posted on 12-10-2021 12:16 PM
There is a guide that is accessible to the private beta customers (it was published in the App Installers private beta forum). As App Installers moves to being more publicly accessible, there will be documentation available at that time.
Posted on 12-10-2021 12:25 PM
Posted on 12-10-2021 12:32 PM
I'd be all over this beta but it sounds like we'll have to wait until early 2022 for a public beta.
Posted on 01-12-2022 03:26 PM
I have the beta but I cant find this guide... I have access to this here: https://community.jamf.com/t5/jamf-pro-10-35-0-beta/gh-p/jamfpro10350
So where should I look :D?
Posted on 01-13-2022 10:41 PM
The private App Installers beta group was seperate to the standard Jamf Pro beta forum and the guide was published in the seperate forum. We are still making further changes to App Installers and hope to be able to open the feature up in a public beta in the near future.
Posted on 01-24-2022 10:03 PM
Hey Justin, appreciate the update! Really looking forward to the future of patching with Jamf Pro. Question about the public beta of "App Installers", will it be coupled with a future Jamf Pro beta release or be its own separate beta release?
Posted on 12-10-2021 11:08 AM
Can't wait for this. I'd gobble it up if it were available. Hungry and juicy. This sure sounds like a AAA grade cutlet. MMmmmm!
Posted on 01-10-2022 07:54 PM
Posted on 02-03-2022 09:54 AM
Still excited for this. Hope it comes soon.
Posted on 02-04-2022 07:15 AM
@JustinC How can we get into this beta really need this for my clients?
Posted on 02-07-2022 10:04 PM
Hi @KyleEricson. We are just wrapping up the current dev cycle and hope to make it available as a public beta very shortly. I will provide an update in the next week or so as we get the dates finalized. I appreciate everyone's interest and patience with this.
Posted on 02-17-2022 01:19 PM
Hi everyone. Please join the JAMF Pro 10.37 Beta program to get your first look at App Installers.
You can enrol in the 10.37 beta here https://account.jamf.com/pre-release/beta-program
Posted on 03-23-2022 08:48 AM
Hey Justin, I installed 10.37 in my on-prem dev environment and everything seems to be working with the enabled Cloud Services Connection. However, I am getting mixed signals about this being available for on-prem customers once it leaves the "preview" phase. Do you know if this will be available to on-prem environments? If not, I think we need to get a feature request going as this would be extremely useful (I'm sure) to us who have on-prem environments.
Posted on 03-23-2022 03:12 PM
@joelsenders App Installers is for Jamf Cloud subscription customers. Whilst today App Installer will work with a non Jamf Cloud instance, it is not supported. There will be some changes in a future iteration of App Installers that will rely on infrastructure that is only available in Jamf Cloud. Once that change is made, the feature will cease to work in an on prem environment.
Posted on 03-23-2022 03:15 PM
Thanks, Justin. For anyone who is on-prem and interested in this, please upvote the feature request here: https://ideas.jamf.com/ideas/JN-I-25878
Posted on 05-05-2022 03:23 PM
Don't upgrade to 10.38 they took away app installers for on-prem.
Posted on 06-15-2022 09:24 AM
I wish that I had seen this earlier. :( I was using app installers previously. The release notes on 10.39 say "App Installer Enhancements" - I guess by that they mean removal if you're on prem. This is kind of a kick in the pants...
Posted on 02-18-2022 02:45 AM
thanks! Where can we find some more informations? We have the BETA 10.37 but I cant find it.
Posted on 02-20-2022 05:48 PM - last edited on 02-22-2022 12:11 PM by CalleyO
Posted on 02-24-2022 01:23 AM
I don't understand why this isn't being implemented into the Patch Management section where we can control who gets what version of the app (Early Adopters vs All). With this new App Installers, you have a choice of all clients or all servers. This should have been combined in one location,
Posted on 03-23-2022 08:50 AM
I think since it uses management commands (like VPP) as opposed to the binary, it shares the section with Mac App Store apps. This probably makes the most sense since they work in the same way.
Posted on 03-23-2022 03:04 PM
Hi @andrewsp. @joelsenders is correct. App Installers uses MDM instead of the Jamf Binary so the underlying behaviour is constrained by what we are able to do with MDM commands. There are a number of other significant architecture differences with App Installers, the packages not being hosted on a customer distribution point as one example, that prevent us from just combining the two feature areas into one. There will be more control over the deployment behaviour in a future release of App Installers.
Posted on 03-25-2022 08:37 AM
@JustinC historically MDM hasn't always worked properly or as expected. I understand that Jamf is trying to future-proof with using MDM, but seems like it might be "wise" to cover your basis and allow the Jamf binary be a backup or plan-B when issues arise with the MDM implementation.
Posted on 03-25-2022 08:34 AM
I agree, need release branching and control like basic dev, testing & production to stage and control releases.
@JustinC is there a concept of rollback with the app installer implementation? What if you dev did testing and it worked as expected but when put into production something "issue" or breaking a app workflow was discovered can you easily rollback to a working version of the application?
Posted on 05-03-2022 07:23 PM
@uurazzle during all of the customer research that was done prior to and during the development of App Installers numerous workflow options were identified. We will be bringing more control options over the deployment behaviour in future releases of App Installers.
Posted on 05-04-2022 06:54 AM
Does the current process do any QA on the installer does it install or security or virus QA process on the developer installers? I have seen many developer installers that incorrectly set permissions or do many bad installation processes. For example, AutoPKG, uses virus total to do VirusTotal. VirusTotalAnalyzer is an AutoPkg processor to query downloaded files from the VirusTotal database. Since Jamf ones Jamf Protect, maybe it can be updated and implemented to do a security audit of App Installers before they are released in production?
05-04-2022 07:35 PM - edited 05-04-2022 07:40 PM
@uurazzle we do a security scan on all media downloaded before they enter our build process. We also have Jamf Protect running on our build test environment so that we can check for malicious behaviour whilst the app is running (which a standard AV scan on downloaded media will not pick up).
Posted on 03-23-2022 01:40 PM
Curious as to why they require smart groups only?
Posted on 03-23-2022 03:08 PM
@thebrucecarter unfortunately there was an incompatibility between what I will call 'traditional code' and the 'new code' that App Installers uses which meant that at this time we were unable to use traditional static scoping mechanisms. We hope to address this in a future release of App installers.
Posted on 04-11-2022 07:28 AM
Curious whether this was brought up in the BETA program at all?
FWIW I have raised https://ideas.jamf.com/ideas/JN-I-25934 bit disappointed that this feature does not follow the scoping format of the rest of the UI, especially in terms of static groups (we use these as rollout/testing groups) but hoping this could be implemented in the near future.
Posted on 05-03-2022 07:01 PM
@iestynd We were aware of the limitation during development however did not want to hold up the release of App Installers due to this limitation and instead made the decision to release it with Smart Group based scoping and will add traditional scoping when possible.
Posted on 03-25-2022 08:44 AM
Are app Installers Only Available to Jamf Cloud Customers?
So, the App Installer implementation is stated only available to Jamf cloud subscription, but initially might work with on-premise subscriptions? Is there a technical reason why it will be only available to Jamf cloud customers? If there is a political or financial reason, seems like you could consider other options to allow the on-premise customers the ability to use it until their organization can consider moving to a Jamf Cloud implementation due to multiple reasons like issues with upload stability or automation with the installer package with Jamf Cloud, or security.
I have created a feature request, please vote it up if you need or would like it available to on-premise Jamf instances.
Posted on 04-06-2022 09:43 AM
Since App Installers will not work for on-prem, couldn't you give everyone the ability to download the packages you build on what I assume is a CDN you manage. We would at least not need to go out and get the packages for the software to use them in Patch Management, like we currently do. I have a feature request open for this.