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Forcing updates using the new Software Update feature

  • January 5, 2024
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mvu
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  • Jamf Heroes
  • June 12, 2024

@mvu  Thanks for the details, much appreciated. Ill keep you posted on my DDM testing over the next few days (and my 'big test' Saturday night to ~25 IT production Macs).

I just noticed that some of my test Macs reported AvailableOSUpdates - Scheduled, ScheduleOSUpdateScan, AvailableOSUpdates, ScheduleOSUpdate and OSUpdateStatus - Scheduled,  but did not report "DeclarativeManagement" in their Jamf  Management History logs.

Does this mean that DDM protocol wasn't used for the OS updates? These particular Macs are M1 Macs running Sonoma 14.4.x. and should be capable of DDM. My JSS is 11.5.1 (Cloud). Im confused here.

The success rate of all these Macs (when NOT using a schedule) is 100% - even on Macs that are asleep, idle, etc. I have tested ~10 Sonoma Macs (Intel and ARM) and the only Macs that have failed have been the jobs with scheduled commands. Any commands I have sent that are "Update to Latest minor version" + "Download Install and Restart" (forced) are working great thus far.


I checked some of my Macs: I see similar results as you mentioned. Some have it, some don't. None of your Macs had "DeclarativeManagement" in it?

I'm guessing Jamf is using the old MDM command for the update and force restart then. Not DDM. Jamf would know.

Ok, nice. I might use this for some of mine. Keep us posted on your results.

 


dstranathan
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  • June 12, 2024

I checked some of my Macs: I see similar results as you mentioned. Some have it, some don't. None of your Macs had "DeclarativeManagement" in it?

I'm guessing Jamf is using the old MDM command for the update and force restart then. Not DDM. Jamf would know.

Ok, nice. I might use this for some of mine. Keep us posted on your results.

 


Like you observed, some logs have DeclarativeManagement some do not.


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  • August 21, 2024

I am not seeing the success I would expect. I sent the update request with 3 deferments 6 days ago and I am still seeing users with the pending command in the device record...


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  • October 8, 2024

I am also getting no joy on this also to any of our iPhones on ios 17x trying to upgrade using the schedule to ios 18 i am not using a specific version and it never works on any devices.

Will keep doing some testing and see if anything works.


mvu
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  • Jamf Heroes
  • October 8, 2024

Are you running a newer version of Jamf? Also, have you tried turning off and ON the Software Update Feature? Your devices Supervised?


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  • October 8, 2024

Are you running a newer version of Jamf? Also, have you tried turning off and ON the Software Update Feature? Your devices Supervised?


Yes on all counts


mvu
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  • Jamf Heroes
  • October 8, 2024

Yes on all counts


The other gotcha I had...

When I was having trouble with DDM, I reverted back to the old MDM update commands. 

Once the fleet got the old commands, I couldn't cancel them or send a new DDM. I had to wait until another iOS release and then used DDM.

What do your logs look like for a device that won't update?