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New Outlook for Mac Version Released

  • October 31, 2014
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geoffreykobrien
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http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-has-released-a-new-outlook-for-mac-public-office-for-mac-beta-coming-in-2015

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  • October 31, 2014

@geoffreykobrien Yes I saw this a few days ago! I can't wait.


donmontalvo
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  • October 31, 2014

If they didn't fix the plain text improper wrapping, I'm going to write this one off as YAATBPBOUAT.

(Yet Another Attempt To Boost Profit By Offloading UAT)


mm2270
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  • October 31, 2014

Thanks for pointing this out!
At this point, anything that will improve the horrible performance of Outlook on the Mac will be welcome. Can't tell you how many support tickets are basically "My Mac outlook sucks!"
According to the article, it sounds like they made some big performance improvements. We'll have to see.

Though I must say I'm a bit peeved its being released (only?) to O365 users right now. I guess Microsoft knows their days of standalone non subscription software being their cash cow are done and are trying to force everyone into a subscription model. Bastages!


RobertHammen
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  • October 31, 2014

Seems like it may be lipstick on a pig - can't really see a ton of changes.

Also, seems to have some activation/ADFS issues, based on the comments at:

http://blogs.office.com/2014/10/31/new-outlook-mac-available-office-365-customers/


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  • October 31, 2014

We subscribe to Exchange365 for all our employees. Trying to find out if we can get the new version of Outlook.


emily
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  • October 31, 2014

Yep, having that problem in our environment, @RobertHammen][/url. Our Office 365 is not talking to the app yet. I wonder if they have to roll that activation out to accounts before it'll start working? It's a bit… bubbly and cutesy for me so far, but I can't actually send/receive email yet.

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emily
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I wonder… since this requires authentication through Office365 if this package can actually be distributed? Since the user has to enter their credentials to authenticate anyway. Though it needs to work first before I think about letting folks try to use it…


iJake
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  • October 31, 2014

I'm not even able to activate it in our environment yet. Hits our corporate STS login page and just does nothing.


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  • October 31, 2014

We use O365 and are having issues too. Those of you in the same boat, might want to keep an eye on this http://community.office365.com/en-us/f/153.aspx


jhbush
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  • October 31, 2014

dumb question but has anyone figured out where the local database is stored or is it all in "the cloud?"


bentoms
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  • October 31, 2014

@jhbush1973, no local DB would be AWESOME!


emily
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So I've only tested this on Yosemite, because that's what I'm running on my computer. Are folks with Mavericks and older OSs having the same issue?


jhbush
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  • October 31, 2014

@emilykausalik I'm running it on Mavericks without any big issues. I'm just unable to find the local DB, if there is one. Reminders on a shared calendar fail to dismiss. The activation worked fine, but my company has been using Office 365 already.


emily
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  • October 31, 2014

@jhbush1973 so you were able to authenticate with AD FS? Do you have Office 365 in the cloud, or locally-hosted?


jhbush
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  • October 31, 2014

@emilykausalik we have a on premises exchange at the moment and our AD is not synced just yet. I'm scheduling a call to get some questions answered as soon as possible.


emily
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I definitely think the issue is the authentication hand-off with AD FS authentication and Office 365 hosted in the cloud. though someone just posted on the sticky thread over here http://community.office365.com/en-us/f/153/p/274375/839129.aspx#839129 that he could get it to work on a mobile hotspot, and that it was potentially a firewall issue.


emily
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Just tried it again and it's working. Hooray? It takes 1 of the 5 activations you get through the O365 Portal. That is very not cool.


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  • October 31, 2014

Working for me now too :)


iJake
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  • October 31, 2014

Me three.


jhbush
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  • October 31, 2014

It appears the Profiles are stored in this directory /Users/yourUser/Library/Group Containers/UBF0YTH0.Office/Outlook/Outlook 15 Profiles. It also appears to be some sort of SQL Lite database.


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  • November 1, 2014

Setup script will be interesting. No schedules. Time for launch agent and bash (apple script inside bash :)

Do that currently for Outlook 2011


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  • November 3, 2014

I suspect they've released this early to satisfy the Mac users that aren't getting all the client features that they're paying for with 365. eg. Online archives!

- Massive CPU hit on first account setup, settled down now.
- Installs a office365servicev2 service
- Had trouble activating Outlook on a users machine. Same machine clean booted from an external drive could activate fine though. I haven't tried to diagnose the issue (don't want to actually!).


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  • November 3, 2014

FYI, a few things I found with the new version:

  • Requires Exchange 2010 SP2 or later.
  • Profile Manager can't be launched by option clicking, you need to open it from here: ``` /Applications/Microsoft Outlook.app/Contents/SharedSupport/Outlook Profile Manager ```
  • First impressions are that it looks like a new skin on the same application. The advertised improvements may be true, but don't expect a new application.

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  • November 4, 2014

One improvement I've seen, perhaps a result of the "new threading model", is much better performance moving a large number (i.e., thousands) of emails. For one, the app doesn't crawl to a halt while copying and uploading the changes to the server. Could move around the app just fine.


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  • November 4, 2014

This blog post has everything you'd probably want to know about the new app covered in one place: http://www.officeformachelp.com/2014/11/microsoft-revamps-features-for-outlook-for-mac-15/

I can't believe they took out exporting to an .olm. All you can do now is just drag a folder to the desktop as an mbox file but you can't import that back in. Yikes.