Question

suspect AD binding/Kerberos issue

Forum|Forum|8 years ago
May 9, 2017
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blackholemac
Valued Contributor

So, I was recently asked to change the URL of the data share that is mapped for all users district wide Mac or Windows. I was able to achieve that in the JSS no problem, but I seem to have a minor pesky issue that is somewhat annoying.

So on a machine that successfully received the new share profile and removed the old one, I log as a user that has never logged in before and everything is hunky dory....works great..share mounts automagically, users is able to get going. The problem is when I log in as an existing user on that Mac (a hard-wired desktop Mac)...immediately upon login, the user is presented with a credentials window for the new share instead of relying on Kerberos tickets. I will note that I also tried mapping manually in the Finder and again am asked for creds.

I have tried running kdestroy and kinit for the user and we still seem to have the problem, though on a new user we don't. I'll be honest...I don't like AD binding, but we need to use it for one more year here. We are only bound to AD and not any other directory system. I have double checked authorizations for the share on the AD side. I'm running out of ideas and would love to have to avoid recreating people's local profiles. If anyone has ideas or needs me to post the products of commands, I can do that to help.

Thank you folks in advance,
blackholemac

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mm2270
Legendary Contributor
Forum|Forum|8 years ago
May 9, 2017

@blackholemac are these cached AD mobile accounts we're talking about? If so, although I've never experienced this issue myself, I'm wondering if there is something in the local cached record that is causing this? I would do a comparison of a dscl . read /Users/username output from an account that is working with the new share and one that isn't to see if there is some very obvious difference between them.

As an experiment, what happens if you do the following steps to recreate the cached AD mobile account record (not the home directory)?

Log out of user and log back into a local admin account
Delete the local directory services record for the affected user
- dscl . delete /Users/username
Recreate the cached AD mobile account
- sudo /System/Library/CoreServices/ManagedClient.app/Contents/Resources/createmobileaccount -n username -h /Users/username
Log back in as the user and see if the share mounts automagically

If the above works, then there is something in the previous cached record in local directory services it's hanging on to that is likely the culprit.
Maybe before running through the above steps you can capture a dscl . read output from the same account before, and then again after and compare them. I'm thinking if you find what is causing it, you can probably script a change to the local record without needing to fully recreate it.

Let us know what happens.

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blackholemac
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Forum|Forum|8 years ago
May 9, 2017

Well...I'll be honest...not getting anywhere on this yet. I have captured the output of a working user vs. a non-working user...still trying to parse through it all, but I did try the experiment as well as one of my own.

The experiment, login as the local admin, run the two commands you posted above on a non-working user, log back in as said user and report the results. Unfortunately, I must report that the share did NOT map.

Where I went a step further...because this particular user is mostly done for the year and backed up, I had permission to delete it and the local home folder for it. I did that and it STILL persisted in asking for creds. Logged out and in as a never before logged in user and it still works.

I captured the output you requested and quite honestly it's a mile long and I don't quite know whether to post both sets of output from a working vs. non-working. I am going to start reviewing it and looking for what I know, but I may not know much. I'm willing to post it but it is seriously very long.

Also interesting if it helps...after all that...I tried logging in as what I thought to be a known working user on that machine and after a reboot, it's now asking for creds on that previously working user. In desperation, I also tried double checking the DNS on the Windows server...for proper Kerberos authentication is it required that the server have both forward and reverse DNS lookup. I noticed the Windows server only had forward lookup and no reverse. <sighs>

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mm2270
Legendary Contributor
Forum|Forum|8 years ago
May 9, 2017

Huh, that's odd. So if it's even failing when you blow the entire account away and recreate it, home directory and all, that means it's not something in the local record causing this, but if not there, then what?

Let me ask, when you recreated the existing user, did you do it by simply trying to log back into the computer after removing the account, and letting the OS create it again, or did you pre-create the AD cached mobile account with the createmobileaccount binary? It sounds like when it's working the account is being created on the fly by simply logging in to the machine as the user while wired to the network. Does it also fail that way after you've deleted the previous account?

Don't worry about posting the dscl output. I know those can be crazy long. Sometimes the UserCertificate shows up there which displays as lines and lines of encoded data.

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blackholemac
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Valued Contributor
Forum|Forum|8 years ago
May 9, 2017

Alright...I'm ready to post the two, but it may be for naught...so I've also discovered that apparently I didn't quite throughly observe the problem. On first login to a box it always maps...not on reboot though...even a suspected working login doesn't mount the share credential free after a reboot...UGH.

Anyway, I'll respond to your follow up...when I blew away the profile, I merely went to System Preferences - Users and Groups and blew it away from there telling the prompt to delete the home folder and then I logged back in...nothing more nothing less.

As for the DSCL output, I have it but had to spend a bit of time obfuscating some things:

Suspected working (may not be working after a reboot though):

dsAttrTypeNative:_writers_hint: staffuser
dsAttrTypeNative:_writers_jpegphoto: staffuser
dsAttrTypeNative:_writers_LinkedIdentity: staffuser
dsAttrTypeNative:_writers_passwd: staffuser
dsAttrTypeNative:_writers_picture: staffuser
dsAttrTypeNative:_writers_realname: staffuser
dsAttrTypeNative:_writers_UserCertificate: staffuser
dsAttrTypeNative:account_instance: ACEBF82F-30C9-4122-B353-1518A51F4D89
dsAttrTypeNative:accountPolicyData:
 <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
    <key>creationTime</key>
    <real>1466090370.58746</real>
    <key>passwordHistoryDepth</key>
    <integer>0</integer>
    <key>passwordLastSetTime</key>
    <real>1466090371.3216381</real>
    <key>policies</key>
    <dict>
        <key>policyCategoryPasswordChange</key>
        <array>
            <dict>
                <key>policyContent</key>
                <string>FALSEPREDICATE</string>
                <key>policyIdentifier</key>
                <string>com.apple.policy.legacy.newPasswordRequired</string>
            </dict>
        </array>
    </dict>
    <key>storeLastLoginTime</key>
    <false/>
</dict>
</plist>

dsAttrTypeNative:cached_auth_policy:
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<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<array>
    <data>
    aXNEaXNhYmxlZD1mYWxzZSBuZXdQYXNzd29yZFJlcXVpcmVkPWZhbHNlIA==
    </data>
</array>
</plist>

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dsAttrTypeNative:original_realname:
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dsAttrTypeNative:original_shell: /bin/bash
dsAttrTypeNative:preserved_attributes: dsAttrTypeStandard:RealName dsAttrTypeStandard:AuthenticationAuthority dsAttrTypeStandard:NFSHomeDirectory dsAttrTypeStandard:HomeDirectory dsAttrTypeStandard:UserShell dsAttrTypeStandard:Picture dsAttrTypeStandard:JPEGPhoto dsAttrTypeStandard:AppleMetaNodeLocation dsAttrTypeStandard:CreationTimestamp dsAttrTypeStandard:ModificationTimestamp dsAttrTypeStandard:PasswordPolicyOptions accountPolicyData dsAttrTypeNative:ShadowHashData dsAttrTypeStandard:SMBHome
AltSecurityIdentities: Kerberos:staffuser@myorghere.org
AppleMetaNodeLocation: /Local/Default
AppleMetaRecordName:
 CN=Staff User,OU=Clear Port Users,OU=Facilities,DC=myorghere,DC=org
AuthenticationAuthority:
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 ;Kerberosv5;;staffuser@MYORGHERE.ORG;MYORGHERE.ORG;
 ;ShadowHash;HASHLIST:<SALTED-SHA512-PBKDF2,SRP-RFC5054-4096-SHA512-PBKDF2>
Comment:
 9030 - FAC
CopyTimestamp: 2016-06-16T15:19:30Z
EMailAddress: staffuser@myorghere.org
FirstName: Staff
GeneratedUID: E0B4D5ED-68BB-42F0-AE1B-E39BA3E669E2
JobTitle: Staff
LastName: User
MCXFlags:
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<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
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</dict>
</plist>

MCXSettings:
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<dict>
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    <dict>
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        <dict>
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                    <key>mcx_preference_settings</key>
                    <dict>
                        <key>com.apple.cachedaccounts.CreateAtLogin</key>
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                        <key>com.apple.cachedaccounts.WarnOnCreate</key>
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        </dict>
        <key>com.apple.dock</key>
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                        <dict>
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                            <key>mcx_remove_duplicates</key>
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        <key>loginwindow</key>
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                <dict>
                    <key>mcx_precedence</key>
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                    <key>mcx_preference_settings</key>
                    <dict>
                        <key>AutoLaunchedApplicationDictionary-raw</key>
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                            <dict>
                                <key>AuthenticateAsLoginUserShortName</key>
                                <true/>
                                <key>MCX-NetworkHomeDirectoryItem</key>
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                    </dict>
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                            <key>mcx_input_key_names</key>
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</plist>

NFSHomeDirectory: /Users/staffuser
OriginalAuthenticationAuthority: ;Kerberosv5;;staffuser@MYORGHERE.ORG;MYORGHERE.ORG; ;NetLogon;staffuser;MYORGDOMAIN
OriginalNodeName:
 /Active Directory/MYORGDOMAIN/myorghere.org
Password: ********
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PhoneNumber: 772-4789
PrimaryGroupID: 1058634865
PrimaryNTDomain: MYORGDOMAIN
RealName:
 Staff User
RecordName: staffuser
RecordType: dsRecTypeStandard:Users
SMBGroupRID: 513
SMBPasswordLastSet: 130979438794076428
SMBPrimaryGroupSID: S-1-5-21-343818398-1563985344-1177238915-513
SMBScriptPath: login.bat
SMBSID: S-1-5-21-343818398-1563985344-1177238915-11941
UniqueID: 1622463981
UserShell: /bin/bash

Known not working account info:

dsAttrTypeNative:_writers_hint: testuser
dsAttrTypeNative:_writers_jpegphoto: testuser
dsAttrTypeNative:_writers_LinkedIdentity: testuser
dsAttrTypeNative:_writers_passwd: testuser
dsAttrTypeNative:_writers_picture: testuser
dsAttrTypeNative:_writers_realname: testuser
dsAttrTypeNative:_writers_UserCertificate: testuser
dsAttrTypeNative:account_instance: 5838EA55-E5C5-4BBF-8992-CF922FAB502D
dsAttrTypeNative:accountPolicyData:
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<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
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    <key>passwordHistoryDepth</key>
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    <key>passwordLastSetTime</key>
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    <key>policies</key>
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    </dict>
    <key>storeLastLoginTime</key>
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</dict>
</plist>

dsAttrTypeNative:cached_auth_policy:
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<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<array>
    <data>
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</array>
</plist>

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dsAttrTypeNative:original_realname: testuser
dsAttrTypeNative:original_shell: /bin/bash
dsAttrTypeNative:preserved_attributes: dsAttrTypeStandard:RealName dsAttrTypeStandard:AuthenticationAuthority dsAttrTypeStandard:NFSHomeDirectory dsAttrTypeStandard:HomeDirectory dsAttrTypeStandard:UserShell dsAttrTypeStandard:Picture dsAttrTypeStandard:JPEGPhoto dsAttrTypeStandard:AppleMetaNodeLocation dsAttrTypeStandard:CreationTimestamp dsAttrTypeStandard:ModificationTimestamp dsAttrTypeStandard:PasswordPolicyOptions accountPolicyData dsAttrTypeNative:ShadowHashData dsAttrTypeStandard:SMBHome
AltSecurityIdentities: Kerberos:testuser
AppleMetaNodeLocation: /Local/Default
AppleMetaRecordName: CN=testuser,OU=2025,OU=Students,OU=Miami,DC=myorghere,DC=org
AuthenticationAuthority:
 ;LocalCachedUser;/Active Directory/MYORGDOMAIN/myorghere.org:testuser:5B65A254-E8C9-4637-83AA-68A0ABAE186B
 ;Kerberosv5;;testuser@MYORGHERE.ORG;MYORGHERE.ORG;
 ;ShadowHash;HASHLIST:<SALTED-SHA512-PBKDF2>
Comment:
 2025 student test account
CopyTimestamp: 2017-05-09T17:05:01Z
GeneratedUID: 5B65A254-E8C9-4637-83AA-68A0ABAE186B
JobTitle: 2025_MIA
MCXFlags:
 <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
    <key>has_mcx_settings</key>
    <true/>
</dict>
</plist>

MCXSettings:
 <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
    <key>mcx_application_data</key>
    <dict>
        <key>com.apple.MCX</key>
        <dict>
            <key>Forced</key>
            <array>
                <dict>
                    <key>mcx_precedence</key>
                    <integer>500</integer>
                    <key>mcx_preference_settings</key>
                    <dict>
                        <key>com.apple.cachedaccounts.CreateAtLogin</key>
                        <true/>
                        <key>com.apple.cachedaccounts.WarnOnCreate</key>
                        <false/>
                    </dict>
                </dict>
            </array>
        </dict>
        <key>com.apple.dock</key>
        <dict>
            <key>Forced</key>
            <array>
                <dict>
                    <key>mcx_precedence</key>
                    <integer>500</integer>
                    <key>mcx_preference_settings</key>
                    <dict>
                        <key>AppItems-Raw</key>
                        <array/>
                        <key>DocItems-Raw</key>
                        <array/>
                        <key>MCXDockSpecialFolders-Raw</key>
                        <array>
                            <string>AddDockMCXOriginalNetworkHomeFolder</string>
                        </array>
                    </dict>
                    <key>mcx_union_policy_keys</key>
                    <array>
                        <dict>
                            <key>mcx_input_key_names</key>
                            <array>
                                <string>AppItems-Raw</string>
                            </array>
                            <key>mcx_output_key_name</key>
                            <string>static-apps</string>
                            <key>mcx_remove_duplicates</key>
                            <true/>
                        </dict>
                        <dict>
                            <key>mcx_input_key_names</key>
                            <array>
                                <string>DocItems-Raw</string>
                            </array>
                            <key>mcx_output_key_name</key>
                            <string>static-others</string>
                            <key>mcx_remove_duplicates</key>
                            <true/>
                        </dict>
                        <dict>
                            <key>mcx_input_key_names</key>
                            <array>
                                <string>MCXDockSpecialFolders-Raw</string>
                            </array>
                            <key>mcx_output_key_name</key>
                            <string>MCXDockSpecialFolders</string>
                            <key>mcx_remove_duplicates</key>
                            <true/>
                        </dict>
                    </array>
                </dict>
            </array>
        </dict>
        <key>loginwindow</key>
        <dict>
            <key>Forced</key>
            <array>
                <dict>
                    <key>mcx_precedence</key>
                    <integer>500</integer>
                    <key>mcx_preference_settings</key>
                    <dict>
                        <key>AutoLaunchedApplicationDictionary-raw</key>
                        <array>
                            <dict>
                                <key>AuthenticateAsLoginUserShortName</key>
                                <true/>
                                <key>MCX-NetworkHomeDirectoryItem</key>
                                <true/>
                            </dict>
                        </array>
                    </dict>
                    <key>mcx_union_policy_keys</key>
                    <array>
                        <dict>
                            <key>mcx_input_key_names</key>
                            <array>
                                <string>AutoLaunchedApplicationDictionary-raw</string>
                            </array>
                            <key>mcx_output_key_name</key>
                            <string>AutoLaunchedApplicationDictionary-managed</string>
                            <key>mcx_remove_duplicates</key>
                            <true/>
                        </dict>
                    </array>
                </dict>
            </array>
        </dict>
    </dict>
</dict>
</plist>

NFSHomeDirectory: /Users/testuser
OriginalAuthenticationAuthority: ;Kerberosv5;;testuser@MYORGHERE.ORG;MYORGHERE.ORG; ;NetLogon;testuser;MYORGDOMAIN
OriginalNodeName:
 /Active Directory/MYORGDOMAIN/myorghere.org
Password: ********
PasswordPolicyOptions:
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PrimaryGroupID: 1058634865
PrimaryNTDomain: MYORGDOMAIN
RealName: testuser
RecordName: testuser
RecordType: dsRecTypeStandard:Users
SMBGroupRID: 513
SMBPasswordLastSet: 130511061835428488
SMBPrimaryGroupSID: S-1-5-21-343818398-1563985344-1177238915-513
SMBSID: S-1-5-21-343818398-1563985344-1177238915-54245
UniqueID: 1533387348
UserShell: /bin/bash

I have the original output unobfuscated here on my computer if anything seems weird to you. I also have our AD admins adding a reverse look up in DNS to the new share drive. The old one had reverse lookup, but the new one doesn't for whatever reason. I don't know if that has anything to do with this, but getting ducks in a row helps.

Kind regards,
blackholemac

+24

mm2270
Legendary Contributor
Forum|Forum|8 years ago
May 9, 2017

@blackholemac Well, I'm not seeing anything obvious in the above output. The couple of items I was interested in seem to be identical between the two accounts, and anyway, if you're finding it's failing to automount upon the second login, but works on the first, then I suspect there's something else going on, but I'm running out of ideas on what it could be myself.

Post back if you discover anything else on this, or manage to get it fixed.

+26

blackholemac
Author
Valued Contributor
Forum|Forum|8 years ago
May 9, 2017

@mm2270 I want to thank you for your willingness to help . It was very much appreciated. Well I don't have a working answer yet I'm going to try some more things in the next few days and if that doesn't work I'm going to give up and call support that's why we pay Apple and jamf. You are a gentleman though for trying to help .

PeterClarke
Contributor
Forum|Forum|8 years ago
May 10, 2017

Please Double-Check, that your clients 'system clock', agrees with the clock on your AD system.
i.e. it's best if they both use the same ntp server.

This is a simple thing, but if wrong, will cause problems.
And if nothing else, then at least you would have eliminated another possible cause.

+26

blackholemac
Author
Valued Contributor
Forum|Forum|8 years ago
May 10, 2017

Good thought @PeterClarke . Already checked that 2-3 times. I've had a real pesky issue 4-5 years ago and date/time/not with the DC is now the FIRST quick check for any AD binding issue.

being a Mac server guy and knowing that proper DNS is essential, I'm going to work with Windows admins this morning to get reverse dns added to the server that the share is on. We are using FQDN to mount it with. Kerberos I know doesn't like it or doesn't function at all without dns being just right. I hope the final fix is that easy.

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