ARD ad Groups

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Howdy,

I've been working with the admin packs ard script. The problem I have is I don't want to add individual users I want to ad AD groups. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Theodore "Teddy" Herman
Systems Engineer
Spring Branch ISD

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ernstcs
Contributor III

Not sure if anyone replied yet, but for some reason I dont feel I have a clear enough idea of what you're trying to accomplish. Can you try explain differently or with more details?

Craig Ernst
UW-Eau Claire
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tlarkin
Honored Contributor

You want to add computer groups into AD? User groups? You do that from the Windows side, unless you are trying to mimic them in OD?

Can you please give more details?



Thomas Larkin
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try:

sudo /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.a/Contents/ Resources/kickstart -activate -configure -users ADGroupName -access - on -privs -all -allowAccessFor -specifiedUsers -restart -agent -menu

Tony S. Wu
tonyswu at mac.com

tlarkin
Honored Contributor

Does this actually work? We tried using ARD Admin groups in Open
Directory our first year of our 1:1 and it never quite worked right. So, instead I created a special local admin account just for ARD admin
access.

I also thought the original poster was trying to import AD groups over
ARD admin, that is why I was asking those questions.

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I am trying to use AD groups in ARD so when a user is trying to log into controling a computer they can use their own account. If this doesn’t really work then I will focus on doing one account. Thanks for the input .

Theodore "Teddy" Herman
Systems Engineer
Spring Branch ISD

jarednichols
Honored Contributor

The problem stems from the client side, actually. If you look in System Preferences, under Sharing, look at Remote Management. You really don't want it set for All Users. So, if you pick Only These Users, you can pare it down, right? So, now add a user that can use Remote Management...

Here's the problem: You can only add local users to that list. If Apple had included even local groups, you could do it. How? In your directory binding settings, you'd set a particular OU in your Active Directory to have administrative rights when they log in. So, you could set Remote Management to allow the Administrators group and since your AD OU is in the Administrators group, they'd be able to use those credentials.

But, there's no groups there. So, that's why it doesn't work. It would be nice if Apple could add groups to that, but even better, network users and groups so you wouldn't have to automatically have to be in the Administrators group for access.

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Jared F. Nichols
Desktop Engineer, Infrastructure & Operations
Information Services Department
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
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Page 63 of the ARD Admin guide speaks about using directory services for creating administrator access groups for ARD access.
One method is creating specific groups in your master directory.

ard_admin
ard_reports
ard_manage
ard_interact

Within any of these groups you specify those users that should have that level of access.
In addition, you need to set the clients to use directory authorization. You can use the Change Client Settings option under the Manage menu item. Probably the easiest method.
Commandline option is available as well.
Of course those clients need to be bound to a directory service.

For those wanting to use local groups for defining access, then take a look at the XML modification under method 1 of the ARD admin guide.

tlarkin
Honored Contributor

We did this on our first year of our 1:1 and it didn't quite work right
and the performance was horrible. Which is why I created special
specific local admins for ARD usage on the machines.

Has anyone successfully used the OD method of adding in OD users/groups
to ARD admin, and what was your experience with it? We tried this in
10.4 and it left such a bad taste in my mouth when we migrated to 10.5 I
didn't care to try it.

Thanks

Tom



Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
blackberry: 913-449-7589
office: 913-627-0351

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We just use a specific standard user account for ARD access.

Tony S. Wu
tonyswu at mac.com

cesar_pineda
New Contributor III

Looks like Apple decided to hard code the permissions for which the groups ard_* have.

I managed to make it work to use AD groups to access ARD, but the problem I face is that I can't make it to work to give just the Observe permission.

So far only a local account on the machine is the only option I have to give Observe permission only (this is what we have) but AD groups just does not seem to work.