Posted on 10-26-2012 12:03 PM
Obviously not a 'JAMF Issue' but this is my favorite place to find good answers.
When using a fully patched Lion (or Mountain Lion) client I can mount a SMB share that is hosted on a Windows server and browse through all the directories just fine using finder. I can create/add/delete files and folders within finder, just like my permissions should allow me to do. What I CAN'T do is search for files/folders contained within that SMB volume.
Here is a simple example:
Users have a SMB share mounted - SMB://Server/Share
They navigate into a subfolder that would be something like //Server/Share/Projects
They have a bunch of files in there and they want to find one named FindMe.txt.
They type FindMe in the little search box in their finder window and it doesn't find that file! (I have made sure that the proper Search scope is selected. "Projects" in this example)
Using terminal, I can do something like this and it returns the correct result: find /Volumes/Share -name FindMe.*
This 30 page "riot" sounds like the same thing I'm seeing: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3194502
1. Can anyone else confirm this or can you somehow search SMB volumes?
2. Any suggestions on what options I have or what to investigate?
Posted on 10-26-2012 03:36 PM
There's an ongoing thread on Apple Discussions about it.
The last one points to a utility "EasyFind" which works. It's a free app from the MAS.
I just tested in in 10.7.5 and it does work. I confirm your problem - it has many online explanations and reasons for being broke, but since I don't use SMB often, I did not see any "fix" per se in a short online search.
FWIW, I can search SMB volumes on an Xsan.
Posted on 10-26-2012 04:18 PM
EasyFind has been a good solution for searching our SMB shares. For those who want a non-App Store version, see here:
Posted on 10-26-2012 09:38 PM
Thanks for the confirmation. I read through the entire apple.com discussion before posting here. I had already put EasyFind in a Self Service policy but it sounds like end users like to search for files within an app like textedit for example. Having them use a 3rd party app like EasyFind is kind of a tough sell after it 'Just working' prior to their upgrade to Lion.
Posted on 10-31-2012 08:03 AM
More testing results:
I setup a test mac server and attached a Firewire drive to it. On that drive I created and shared out 2 folders: 1 AFP and 1 SMB.
I put the entire FW drive into Spotlight Privacy to prevent any indexing. I created a few files/folders within the AFP and SMB shared folders.
I was expecting clients to only be able to search files on the AFP share and not the SMB share. What ended up happening is I can find files using both AFP and SMB.
How many people are using Windows file servers? Are you able to search if you connect to them using SMB?
I'm not too excited about the idea of having to introduce a third party product like Extremez-IP into the mix.
Posted on 10-31-2012 08:41 AM
@frozenarse The reason you can Spotlight search both AFP and SMB on your Mac server is because the server creates and manages the Spotlight index. SMB shares, EMC CLARiiON, NetApp, etc., don't support Spotlight searching.
ExtremeZ-IP adds AFP and also creates and manages the Spotlight index, so Macs can use it. If you re-share, you lose the Spotlight functionality...we had calls with GroupLogic, they *may* add this in a future release.
Posted on 10-31-2012 08:52 AM
Don- That is exactly what I was thinking. I thought that by adding the entire FW drive to Spotlight Privacy it would NOT create a spotlight index and kind of mimic what a Windows server would act like.
Any suggestions? Are users pretty much stuck with having to use a 3rd party app like EasyFind?
Posted on 11-11-2012 06:33 AM
I'm running into this issue as well. I gave our graphic designers the "Easy Find" app but they didn't take well to the fact you can only browse in List form. They prefer thumbnails for quick visuals for ON AIR. They said thanks but no thanks. We are using a Windows server for 1 item of their workflow and apparently its a major one. I'm stuck unable to spotlight an SMB server on 10.7.5.
Posted on 11-11-2012 03:28 PM
@hbon We provided options to our client, either pay for ExtremeZ-IP or move the files to an OS X Server. They opted for the later.
BTW, after our calls with Apple, NetAPP and GroupLogic, the following patch was released that lists a "fix" for Spotlight searches of SMB shares:
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1583 Resolve an issue using Spotlight to search an SMB server
@boettchs The fix didn't work for us either. :( Bug Report 12679722 submitted today.
Posted on 11-21-2012 03:48 PM
Apple had me run this command and attach resulting bundle file to the Bug Report (12679722):
I would suggest anyone else who is frustrated about inability to search SMB shares, where Spotlight is supposed to look for an index -- if one does not exist fall back to simple Find function -- does not work, OPEN A BUG REPORT!!!
We've got their attention...the more BUG REPORTS are submitted, the more attention it gets. ;)