New MBP ship with Mac OS X 10.6.6 (10J3210)

[jhalvorson]

Heads up concerning new MacBook Pro models...

Just received the first MacBook Pro 13-inch (Early 2011) with Mac OS X
10.6.6 (10J3210) installed from the factory.

It would not netboot with our Mac OS X 10.6.5 (10H574) image. (I never took
the time to create a 10.6.6 (10j567) netboot image, so I don't know if that
worked with the new models.)

The following Support page from Apple confirms that all new 13, 15, 17-inch
MacBook Pros ship with the new build of 10.6.6
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1159

Time to build a new netboot image and core OS package.

Jason

[ernstcs]

I assume that with any new hardware revision...

[bentoms]

Sometimes you can get away with it.

& if you've not purchased for a while a combo update might be available to update os skipping the need to create on new hardware.

Regards,

Ben Toms

[stevewood]

Since these came out AFTER 10.6.6 was released, I would highly doubt that
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Ben.Toms at grey.com <Ben.Toms at grey.com> wrote:
combo updater would work. Typically you have to wait for the next point
release combo updater. So anything that is released between now and 10.6.7
you will need to create new NBI and core OS installers.

Steve Wood
Director of IT
swood at integer.com

The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201
T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6901 | C 940.312.2475

[bentoms]

Yep. But sometimes you lucks in.

We've also created policies with custom triggers before that means that we built them from box. I.e. Don't wipe, just setup for our environment via a policy.

Regards,

Ben Toms

[ImAMacGuy]

I was reading something earlier today that said that the 10J3210 adds
trim support to SSDs.

http://osxdaily.com/2011/03/04/mac-os-x-10-6-to-get-ssd-trim-support/

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[Cem]

I have the new 13" and 15" mbp models. I have already created NetBoot image as below;

Just don't start up the new Mac. But start as target mode and make an OS image using Composer. Then use Casper NetInstall Creator tool from Resources Kit to make net boot image from it. This has net-booted 4 years old iMac, new 27" iMac and all the older and newest MBPs I have tried so far.

I created instaDMG 10.6.6 vanilla using 10.6.3 retail DVD on new 15" mbp but didn't work.

I am now creating SIU image using 10.6.6 DVD came with the new 15" MBP.

Will report back with the result.

Cem

[golbiga]

For InstaDMG you have to use the grey discs included with the new machine. Once 10.6.7 comes out you should be able to use the 10.6.3 retail DVD.

Allen

[donmontalvo]

Garsh dang it...Apple dun' forked us again.
I hate it when they does this. I think I'm going to sit this one out until 10.6.7 is released...

Don

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably
in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you.
Fool me — you can't get fooled again." - George W. Bush

[RobertHammen]

Only for Apple-branded SSD's on said new hardware. I also don't know if it will support TRIM on older hardware like the Air/old MBP's with Apple SSD's.
On Mar 7, 2011, at 1:10 PM, Wojda, John wrote:

I'd expect to see 10.6.7 drop very "soon" - hope it re-unifies the OS so a 10.6.7 master image can boot all existing Intel hardware.

Until the Mac mini, iMac, and Mac Pro are rev'd again...

--Robert

[Cem]

Really? I would love to know how its done. I have tried this method but no
output file!!
I have used InstaDMG 1.6rc1. But when you run InstaUp2Date, it throws
errors.

Did you actually created one? If yes which version of instadmg did you use

Cem

[golbiga]

I haven't personally yet, but on the InstaDMG-Dev mailing list someone posted their catalog file which they stated works. Just make sure you are using the grey discs that came with the new MacBook Pros, and make sure you are doing everything on the new machine. Here is the output for the catalog file. Once 10.6.7 comes out everything should be unified again, well at least until they release new imacs, etc.

Installer Disc Builds: 10J3210
OS Updates:
JavaForMacOSX10.6Update3 http://support.apple.com/downloads/DL972/en_US/JavaForMacOSX10.6Update3.dmg
sha1:f671f0443959fe7388dad23044bcc51bf1bf5eae
RemoteDesktopClient34 http://support.apple.com/downloads/DL1350/en_US/RemoteDesktopClient.dmg
sha1:46df7a3b31cd2b51213e1a6fd193d5073c004771<http://support.apple.com/downloads/DL1350/en_US/RemoteDesktopClient.dm>
iTunes10.2 http://appldnld.apple.com/iTunes10/061-9637.20110302.Tnz2t/iTunes10.2.dmg
sha1:35da52c03a478d7ff325e67d589e48afd195c9ab

Allen

[ImAMacGuy]

I use instaDMG all the time, and it doesn't *REQUIRE* the grey discs, in
fact they (the forum / support) tells you not to. They rather you use
the retail disc then load the patches on top.

That doesn't necessarily apply when new hardware comes out that requires
you to use the grey discs, and I've never really had a problem doing
either of them.

Cem,

Make sure you update your instaDMG and that should take care of your
problems. There's a good guide on
www.osxdeployment.info/wiki/InstaUp2Date_Guide

John Wojda
Lead System Engineer, DEI
3333 Beverly Rd. B2-338B
Hoffman Estates, IL 60179
Phone: (847)286-7855
Page: (224)532.3447
Team Lead: Matt Beiriger

[golbiga]

By use of the grey discs I only meant when new hardware comes out mid point release. For my standard build I use the 10.6.3 retail dvd and build from there. But when new machines come out and they have different builds it's best to use the grey discs that came with the machine.

Once 10.6.7 comes out I will go back to using the 10.6.3 and then apply the 10.6.7 combo, which should have all the necessary hardware drivers.

I'll also only use the the 10J321 build on the new MBPs, I'll stick w/ default build for every other machine.

+1 to making sure InstaDMG is up-to-date.

Thanks
Allen

[jafuller]

Why not start with the 10.6 universal and use InstaDMG to update to current 10.6.6. Wouldn't this leave it hardware version agnostic?

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[donmontalvo]

It would for all Macs that support Snow Leopard and was released with 10.6.5 or earlier.
The new MacBook Pro computers require a special build that only comes on the bundled discs.
At least until the 10.6.7 combo is released...hence my "Forked again by Apple" comment. :)

Don

[jafuller]

Thanks for the clarification. Bummer.

James Fuller | Technology Application Services | application developer II | V: 206.318.7153

Technology does not drive change -- it enables change.

[stevewood]

I still don't get why this is a surprise to anyone that has been a Mac
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Don Montalvo <donmontalvo at gmail.com> wrote:
person doing deployments for more than 3 years. Apple has had this policy
for as long as I can remember, I think all the way back to the OS9 days. You've always needed a new OS disc when new hardware was released due to
the hardware drivers. This is not something new.

Steve Wood
Director of IT
swood at integer.com

The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201
T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6901 | C 940.312.2475

[jhalvorson]

My intentions were share this info with those that were not aware of this
fact.

Usually with the release of a new model, a few people new to imaging Macs
inquire as to why their existing images no longer work. I thought it might
be helpful to those folks.

Jason

[donmontalvo]

Ya, remember back when Apple released "enablers" for the different models? :)
On Mar 8, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Steve Wood wrote:

We learned in the late 90's of a way to make an agnostic image, where the only real difference was selecting the appropriate Extension Set at startup, using Disk Copy 6.3.11 and some scripts to make ASR ready images that you could deploy while booted from a CD that included the agnostic image.

Thank you George Spiese!

Don

[jafuller]

So what Apple ships on a DVD with computers is different from what is available on software update. Why don't they keep the update via SU "current"? That would make this all much simpler.

--
James Fuller
E: jafuller at starbucks.com
Technology does not drive change -- it enables change.

[donmontalvo]

Dan Shoop said it best...

http://www.mail-archive.com/macosx-admin@omnigroup.com/msg00186.html

Don