Recovery Partition in Lion

[Matt]

Is there anyway to combine the pre-built Lion Recovery HD with the one Casper installs?

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Matt Lee, CCA/ACMT/ACPT/ACDT
Senior IT Analyst / Desktop Architecture Team / Apple S.M.E / JAMF Casper Administrator
Fox Networks Group

[donmontalvo]

The BaseSystem.dmg (invisible, at top level of InstallESD.dmg) can be added as an additional partition using Casper.

[noah_swanson]

I was looking around and in terminal, disk utility has an option coreStorage (or cs) now and there were options to make a drive the recovery partition:

$ diskutil cs
Usage: diskutil [quiet] coreStorage|CS <verb> <options>, where <verb> is as follows:

list (Show status of CoreStorage volumes) info[rmation] (Get CoreStorage information by UUID or disk) convert (Convert a volume into a CoreStorage volume) revert (Revert a CoreStorage volume to its native type) create (Create a new CoreStorage logical volume group) delete (Delete a CoreStorage logical volume group) createVolume (Create a new CoreStorage logical volume) unlockVolume (Attach/mount a locked CoreStorage logical volume) changeVolumePassphrase (Change a CoreStorage logical volume's passphrase)

diskutil coreStorage <verb> with no options will provide help on that verb

I'm assuming you could convert the casper created partition? Not sure what it'll do as far as data on that drive though...

--Noah

[dderusha]

I was looking around and in terminal, disk utility has an option coreStorage (or cs) now and there were options to make a drive the recovery partition:
On 7/26/11 10:55 AM, "Swanson Noah" <SwansonNoah at JohnDeere.com> wrote:

$ diskutil cs
Usage: diskutil [quiet] coreStorage|CS <verb> <options>, where <verb> is as follows:

list (Show status of CoreStorage volumes) info[rmation] (Get CoreStorage information by UUID or disk) convert (Convert a volume into a CoreStorage volume) revert (Revert a CoreStorage volume to its native type) create (Create a new CoreStorage logical volume group) delete (Delete a CoreStorage logical volume group) createVolume (Create a new CoreStorage logical volume) unlockVolume (Attach/mount a locked CoreStorage logical volume) changeVolumePassphrase (Change a CoreStorage logical volume's passphrase)

diskutil coreStorage <verb> with no options will provide help on that verb

I’m assuming you could convert the casper created partition? Not sure what it’ll do as far as data on that drive though…

--Noah

Noah-

We Were on a call with apple a few minutes ago.

They said the Apple recovery partition is a minimal install to get your system up and running.
When you are recovering, it dials out to an apple server to get the majority of the OS.

I don’t believe we would want to combine both worlds. Apple’s restore will provide the base lion image and none of your companies software. Apple is working on possibly offering image hosting. Apple mentioned boot holding command and R, which allows minimal services like surfing the web for help documentation to assist with troubleshooting.

They also mentioned licensing. If your company buys 2,000 licenses of lion client, you get one code and can install it on any Apple hardware anyway you want.

Dan De Rusha

[nessts]

one would surmise, I have yet to check, but if the apple default recovery partition is basic enough to boot and run apples installer if it so happens that ASR is included in those basic functions, we could copy our compiled image to the system, maybe even install the imaging tool on this partition and image from there if need be?

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Todd Ness
Technology Consultant/Non-Windows Services
Americas Regional Delivery Engineering
HP Enterprise Services

[Matt]

How about removing said partition all together?

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Matt Lee, CCA/ACMT/ACPT/ACDT
Senior IT Analyst / Desktop Architecture Team / Apple S.M.E / JAMF Casper Administrator
Fox Networks Group

[golbiga]

If you want to use FileVault on any machine, you need to keep the Recovery Partition on there. Not sure what else requires it.

Thanks
Allen

[Matt]

No File Vault ever here. I would love to ditch this. All I need is another excuse for a tech to use the wrong restore partition.

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Matt Lee, CCA/ACMT/ACPT/ACDT
Senior IT Analyst / Desktop Architecture Team / Apple S.M.E / JAMF Casper Administrator
Fox Networks Group

[noah_swanson]

Something I found is that when filevault IS enabled, it links to the user profiles on the machine. Not only that, whoever authenticates, the machine will automatically logon as them. For us, that means filevault is already out.

--Noah

[talkingmoose]

I'm not sure FileVault is necessarily linking to the accounts, although I
On 7/26/11 11:45 AM, "Swanson Noah" <SwansonNoah at JohnDeere.com> wrote:
could be wrong.

Instead, when you select the option in an account to let a user unlock the
drive then that gets stored in EFI. Once EFI boots then it passes the
credentials back to the Mac OS to log in the user. But once a Mac is at
the Mac OS login screen then anyone can log in since the drive's already
unlocked.

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William Smith
Technical Analyst
Merrill Communications LLC
(651) 632-1492

[jack_bishop]

The recovery partition is required for:

FileVault
Back to My Mac
Remote Wipe

If you won't be using any of these features, there is no need for the Apple recovery partition.

Jack

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Jack E. Bishop
Network Engineer
NINDS(Contractor)

[Matt]

How do you disable get rid of it short of making a Composer OS Package?

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Matt Lee, CCA/ACMT/ACPT/ACDT
Senior IT Analyst / Desktop Architecture Team / Apple S.M.E / JAMF Casper Administrator
Fox Networks Group

[ImAMacGuy]

How do we extract this from the installESD file? I tried just a regular copy but couldn't :(

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[Matt]

Its a hidden file so you'll either need to show hidden files or chflag it.

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Senior IT Analyst / Desktop Architecture Team / Apple S.M.E / JAMF Casper Administrator
Fox Networks Group

[ImAMacGuy]

Thank you, got the file copied, dumped into casper admin, but it won't
let me select it as a recovery partition. So I tried to tell it' that
it's a Mac OS file and casper returned that it's not. I hate to ask -
but is there some baby steps on how to get this working?

John Wojda

Lead System Engineer, DEI & Mobility

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Hoffman Estates, IL 60179

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[jarednichols]

If it were me, having not looked at this process mind you, I'd be copying the file to a temp location on the drive and using asr or hdiutil to restore it that way.

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[donmontalvo]

Ditto to copy the DMG somewhere, chflags to toggle hidden flag.

ditto /path/to/original /path/to/target/folder

chflags nohidden /path/to/target/folder/target

Don