MS Office SP2 (14.2.0)

cbrewer
Valued Contributor II

I'm finding that the 14.2.0 package from Microsoft isn't working when pushed with Casper. Logs show a successful installation, but clients stay on version 14.1.4. Anyone else play with it yet?

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talkingmoose
Moderator
Moderator

FYI, Microsoft has released the Office for Mac 2011 14.2.1 update.

Blog: Update to SP2 Now Available!

KB article: Description of the Microsoft Office for Mac 2011 14.2.1 update

Download: Microsoft Office 2011 14.2.1 Update

bentoms
Release Candidate Programs Tester

Anyone got a link for the Lync uPdate?

Matt
Valued Contributor

Need that freaking Lync update like 2 versions ago.

nkalister
Valued Contributor

Is the 14.1.2 package the only change, or has the sp2 package been updated as well?
If I download the latest SP2 package, will i need to also include the 14.1.2 patch in my imaging workflow?
MS's blog post is ambiguous, but judging from the notes in the KB article and the size of 14.1.2, I'm going to try leaving out sp2 and just using 14.1.2.

talkingmoose
Moderator
Moderator

Aaaaaand... here you go.

Description of the Microsoft Lync for Mac 2011 14.0.2 update

I've been told it should be available by AutoUpdate by now. I haven't checked.

Kumarasinghe
Valued Contributor

I am prompted for a Product Key with 14.2.1 update as well. We have volume license and this hasn't happened before.

My policy setup;
1. Install Office 2011 with SP1
2. Install Office 14.2.1 Update

nkalister
Valued Contributor

yep, I tested a new image config yesterday with the Office sp1 base installer installed at first boot, and then the 14.2.1 update installed after that and I'm getting the same results as Kumarasinghe- the office applications prompt for a product key on first launch.

talkingmoose
Moderator
Moderator

Is this when updating from 14.1.x to 14.2.1 or from 14.2.0 to 14.2.1? I can pass along the details to Microsoft.

If you're running volume license products then I believe you should be able to copy these files from a working machine and place them in the same location on the failing machines:

  • com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper
  • com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist
  • com.microsoft.office.licensing.plist

That may allow you to work around the problem until Microsoft addresses it.

Matt
Valued Contributor

I am a huge believer in never using the stock MS package. I always do a capture with MS Office.

nessts
Valued Contributor II

i bundled the two updates together and it seems to be working just fine. i think as with all SP type updates you have to apply the .0 version before you apply the .1 version.

nkalister
Valued Contributor

I'll give it another go with both sp2 and the 14.2.1 update both included.
Talkingmoose, I was getting the licensing prompt when installing the volume license office 2011 sp1 base + 14.1.4 + 14.2.1 during imaging.

talkingmoose
Moderator
Moderator

Just did my first production push of Office 2011 (14.0.0) + 14.1.0 + 14.2.1.

Everything went fine and no licensing issues.

FYI, you should have no need to install the 14.1.4 update since 14.2.1 covers everything back to 14.1.0.

Kumarasinghe
Valued Contributor

Still having licensing issues with Office 2011 with SP1 + 14.2.0 + 14.2.1

talkingmoose
Moderator
Moderator

The 14.2.1 update incorporates 14.2.0. No need to install both. See what happens if you leave 14.2.0 out of the mix.

henkelb
New Contributor III

I have been playing with this today. I am working on a new imaging configuration so there isn't much in it right now. If I just install 14.0.0 and 14.1.0, the office appications will open just fine. If I add 14.2.1 to the configuration they start asking me to enter a product key. Something in the 14.2.1 package seems to be removing the volume license key that is laid down by the first package.

At this point I have been doing a complete reimage each time to test the difference. The base os is 10.7.3. The only other things getting installed are Adobe CS5.5, iLife 11 and iWork 09.

talkingmoose
Moderator
Moderator

Bill, this is happening when using Microsoft's supplied installer packages and not repackaging yourself. Correct?

Kumarasinghe
Valued Contributor

None of the above methods worked for me.

So I have downloaded Office 2011 with SP2 from Microsoft VLSC and 14.2.1 update.

Everything works fine now.
1. Install Office 2011 with SP2
2. Install Office 14.2.1 Update

Paolo
New Contributor

Do not touch 14.2.0 update.

I have several reports of people running other applications (not exchange based) and claiming disruption of the service after SP2 and even patch installation.

Very bad move by Microsoft.
My Search bar doesn't search anymore, after the identity upgrade.
Patch didn't fix it.

O_o

henkelb
New Contributor III

Yes this is happening with the microsoft supplied installers. they are set to install at reboot in the image configuration.

Matt
Valued Contributor

Paolo try reindexing. I noticed after this borked update that searching and some other strange Adobe issues popped up! Once we patched them... they all went away. Very bad MS.

DavidPelton
New Contributor

Greetings and Salutations

Sorry to be so long to reply about the Product Activation issue for Volume License users (that includes Education institutions that have not had to input product keys). We have been able to reproduce in house and I want to make sure the scenario matches yours.

To reproduce this behavior we have found that you need to be  • pushing both the last Setup Build you have in your establishment (14.0 or 14.1) and the updater (14.2.1 or 14.2.0) at the same time, OR • pushing the 14.2.x updater to a machine that a) has had the setup build pushed via ARD or some imaging like Casper that does not invoke the setup assistant and b) never run any of the office applications

Does this match the scenarios you see?

We do not have a fix, but we have a workaround. Everyone with volume licenses should have access to the 14.2.0 setup image now, and you can push the 14.2.0 setup image (rather than the 14.0 or 14.1 setup image) with the 14.2.1 updater and not have this issue.

Please either email me or respond back here if you are seeing something different.

Thanks

David Pelton

DavidPelton
New Contributor

To those who are not having an update actually change the bits

Could the folks that are seeing this issue with the lack of upgrade, please pass on some information?

1) The install log, in particular the top section where it says the options chosen and gives the list of packages to install. of course, any errors in the install log would also be appreciated

2) Launch console on the machine that is receiving the update and send up that console log.

3) Please (for me being the not completely educated on the finer points of Casper) elaborate on the procedure being used to apply the update so I can attempt to reproduce in house.

Thanks and sorry for these difficulties.

David Pelton

talkingmoose
Moderator
Moderator

@David Pelton

I've seen this once in my environment. I was pushing 14.0.0 + 14.1.0 + 14.2.1 consecutively using Casper. This seems to match your first scenario.

I'll try to get an install log Monday. Should be found in /private/var/log/install.log*, I believe.

talkingmoose
Moderator
Moderator

@David Pelton

Looks like I misread your Intention. The solution to this issue is to begin with the volume license installer that includes SP2 and upgrade from there. That sounds reasonable.

Thanks again for coming to us in the forums.

cbrewer
Valued Contributor II

Any now we have 14.2.2

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2665351

Like 14.2.1 this update looks like it is a full SP2 installer. No need to install 14.2.0.

andrewseago
Contributor

FYI 14.2.3 is a combo update as well.

talkingmoose
Moderator
Moderator

I haven't done any testing yet but 14.2.3 should correct the world-writable permissions issue introduced by 14.2.0. It should also avoid the lost license for volume license customers and the "unable to rebuild" Outlook database issues. (It will still require an Outlook database rebuild if updating from 14.1.x.)

Therefore, I believe the safest install methods would be either:

  • 14.0.0 + 14.1.0 + 14.2.3
  • 14.2.0 (volume license) + 14.2.3